Cheating: advice on ethics and re-establishing connection?

Daenerys

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Hi! I’m in a terrible place right now and I would love to get some pointers. Here’s my story (short summary at the bottom):

I identify as poly and I’ve had a happy polyamorous relationship in the past (that ended because of other traumatic issues). I’ve been alone for five years before I started a new relationship with A, who was not comfortable with polyamory, but was not opposed to the idea, so we had a few conversations where I told him what being poly is about and how it worked for me. I gave him my copy of The Ethical Slut and he skimmed a few pages but never really read it. We had an agreement that I would not pursue any other romantic interests for the time being, and I was ok with that. I also said that if he felt like exploring polyamory for himself, I would be open about that as long as he was honest with me and told me about everything. We’ve been together for more than a year in what I experienced as a meaningful, committed relationship, which became more and more important to me, even though we had our issues.

And now A cheated on me. He was away working at a kids’ summer camp for a month during which he openly started a relationship with another woman, K, without telling me. And there are so many painful details that really get to me: Last year I had visited him at said camp and we spent some of our most wonderful days together. This year he was reluctant about my visiting and was going back and forth between yes and no, which was already very hurtful. When he finally made the decision that I shouldn’t visit (he was already at the camp), he told me quite coldly, which was hard for me (a few days later he started sleeping with K). We had regular contact on the phone and I could already feel that something was wrong, after another week I told him that I was hurting because he was so emotionally disconnected from me. I asked him about what was going on and he said he was just distant because of the special atmosphere at the camp. I asked if he would reconnect with me afterwards, and all I got was a “don’t know, probably” which hurt even more. I was deeply worried about our relationship the whole time, wondering what had gone wrong. When he came home, he told me about her, and that he figured it wouldn’t be a big deal because of my poly experience. He also admitted to being selfish, not thinking about what he was doing or caring much about my feelings because he was so emotionally detached (without knowing why he was so detached in the first place). He also conveniently forgot about an eerily similar scenario that happened to our friends not too long ago, where I explicitly stated that I would see this as cheating and that I DO NOT want to be told of an affair afterwards, but immediately, on the phone when necessary. Sex with others might happen unexpectedly sometimes, but relationships don't. There's always time to communicate.

I was devastated, and still am. The night that followed was the worst of my life. I had never been cheated on and I had no idea how badly it would affect me. I feel betrayed. I feel the most intense pain over the broken trust and the loss of intimacy and connection between us. At my obvious grief he reconnected emotionally and said that he wanted to save the relationship and that he was really sorry for the pain he caused. He has since tried (almost always successfully) to be there for me during many, many painful talks, tears and a lot of frustration.

I asked him to temporarily (maybe permanently) cut ties with K to focus on our relationship and he agreed, although reluctantly. He wanted to speak to her in person and I agreed on the condition that I got to meet her. K was reluctant at first, but agreed. I found her very likeable, but am worried because she showed little respect for my relationship with A. She knew about me but simply didn’t care, and while being sorry for my pain she openly confessed to having no regrets about what and how it happened. She knows about polyamory (she’s 23, we’re 30) and has shown some interest in the concept. I told her that I care about her feelings and her wish for a serious relationship with A, but that I cannot see that working out after what has happened. K was understanding, but is quite in love with A and sad to lose him, and I personally think that she was hoping he would break up with me. A says he has a crush on K but is willing to give it up for the sake of our relationship. We parted with the agreement that we would get together again in two months.

So here’s my first question: what is the ethical way to deal with K’s feelings of being pushed aside? Normally I would have said that I don’t want “enablers” of cheating in my network, and that if there is no insight into wrongdoing after it has happened, we’re not on the same page ethically and I’m in the right to protect my primary bond. But I feel that my judgment right now is heavily clouded due to the betrayal and the ensuing jealousy.

My second question: how do I go about repairing my relationship? It’s been two weeks and I'm tormented by uncontrollable bouts of anger and sadness. I’m paranoid and needy and terribly insecure. There are pictures and thoughts about the cheating in my head and I can’t seem to get past the HOW ON EARTH COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME to work productively on the situation. Some days feel a little better, others feel like I haven’t made an inch of progress because the pain is so intense. A has been supportive so far, but I feel like I’m wearing him out quite quickly, and he has enough commitment issues as it is. I have doubts about whether our relationship really was what I perceived it to be, when something like this could happen so easily, and I’m worried that it might happen again because I still don’t know WHY it happened. But I feel we are both determined to give it our best shot over the next few months and to find out where that takes us. I’m yearning to feel some connection between us again, to see that the special bond is not gone but just damaged. But how? What actions are helpful? How do we both manage to stay sane? I have ordered “After the Affair” by Janis Spring for some guidance, we spend as much time as possible together (which is often tense and exhausting), we are going on a little getaway for some good moments, but I’m worried that I’ll ruin it because my emotions are all over the place. Any advice on how to deal with this?

Sincere thanks to whoever bothered to read through this.

SUMMARY
1) My boyfriend, A, cheated on me with K, who is in love with him but shows little respect for my relationship with A. What is the ethical way of dealing with K’s feelings of being pushed aside because I asked him to temporarily (maybe permanently) cut ties?
2) Any practical tips on what actions are helpful in re-establishing trust and the feeling of connection between A and me? How do I keep my rampant emotions from ruining any nice moments together which we desperately need right now?
 
Hi Daenerys,

Sorry you're going through all this right now.

It sounds to me like A got to feeling disconnected from you *before* the affair happened. If this is true, then the affair is a symptom of the illness but not the illness itself.

Perhaps you and A need to do some digging to find out why he got to feeling disconnected? Is professional relationship counseling a possibility for the two of you at this point? If it is, see if you can find a poly-friendly counselor.

You have experienced a traumatic, jarring event. I think you are rushing yourself by wanting your feelings to calm down anytime soon. I expect it to take a long time for you to get past the not-so-fun rollercoaster ride your feelings are trapped on right now. There will be many more tears. Much more panic. Anger. Pain. Paranoia. Neediness. A sense of doom. You've been betrayed, and you don't even know why. This isn't the kind of thing you can recover from overnight. I should think you'll be doing well if you can achieve significant improvement after a year, and residual doubts about this whole thing will probably follow you for the rest of your days.

Please be patient with yourself, and with the process of grief. Cut yourself some slack.

As for K -- and A -- I tend to think that at the end of the day, you'll have to decide whether you're willing to accept them as they are, warts and all. K doesn't get that she did anything wrong. A probably wouldn't get it either if he wasn't witnessing your emotional upset. As I said some probing is in order to find out what's up with A, and why he disconnected from you in the first place, but to some extent I bet you'll find out this is just a dubious part of his personality. Everyone has their warts; perhaps you've discovered one of his (and it's a big one).

What you have to do is decide whether you want to stay with this man, knowing what you know about him so far. If you decide to stay, then you should probably try to accept him mostly as-is. Don't try too hard to change him. I mean just think about how hard it is to make a change within yourself. It's exponentially harder to get someone else to make a change.

If you decide you want to try to accept A -- forgive and accept him (providing he tries to do better) -- then accepting (and forgiving) K might be part of that package. So I guess my personal vote is to let A and K resume their relationship as soon as you can stand to do it. But I predict that many Polyamory.com members will disagree with me about that, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

I know this post is not all good news, and I do feel bad for you because the end of the tunnel is a long ways away. I just hope that venting (and getting advice) on our forum here will help you get through this.

Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
I often think if I can understand why a hurtful event occurred, it will speed the healing process, but it is just a modifier; not a cure. An emotional wound is much like a physical wound. It takes time to heal. You can't just understand a broken leg and have it magically knitted together. The healing process takes time. But understanding can be a good splint.

So on to the understanding:

It seems that what is often the most difficult to understand is when cheating occurs in poly situation. I mean in a monogamous relationship, while it's really uncool, the deceit has a certain degree of logic to it - if I tell, my partner will leave me. But in a poly dynamic, where being deceitful is totally unnecessary, one has to wonder what is driving the behavior.

It appears from your post that you feel that you don't have the answer as to why yet. And yet both you and your bf need to get to that root cause of that in order for him to regain your trust. You have to know that he knows what was driving his behavior, because only in understanding himself, can he genuinely reassure you that he is trustworthy.

You may need a counselor to get to the root of that, but here are a couple of thoughts:

1. Still emotionally operating in a mono mindset, where a new love is forbidden fruit - but logically remembering your words about poly. So he initially keeps her a delicious secret placating those mono emotions, and then logically confesses.

The forbidden fruit idea is rather juvenile, but there are those who find the secrecy a turn-on.

2. A bid for autonomy - which probably has more to do with his personal psychology than you.

3. Wanting to get a new gf before you brought up adding a bf?
 
I am sorry you deal in this. Books could help, so could counseling.

I do not know if this POV could help any...

http://felislunae.org/relationships-love/coming-clean/

In this situation I do not think you have to deal or wory about K's feelings at this point in time. K admits to knowingly entering into a cheating situation. K knew the risks, she can deal with her feelings.

The issues here are between you and A and if you even want to continue with him or not.

Then discern if trust can be repaired or not to be ABLE to continue in a healthy way. You might want to, but find you are not able to.

Not between you and K at this point in time.

He broke agreements, left things out and lied. Yet you are the one worrying about about how to repair the relationship? What behavior did you do that broke agreements? He is responsible for his behavior and choices, not you.

He was less than honest and figured it was ok to treat you poorly and cheat on agreements. If he admits to being selfish, believe him.

I suspect he grew distant and detached so he COULD cheat without too many dings to his conscience. He told himself stories to help him too... Like it would not be a big deal for him to treat you poorly with his behavior because you had polyships before.

This is not about polyshipping or not poly shipping. This is is about honesty. Him flipping it to be your past behavior choices is not focusing on HIS behavior choices.

Go slow and think things out one bit at a time. Super slow.

  • Do you even want to continue here? He has not been trustworthy. Can he become so?
  • Has he apologized for breaking agreements rather than stopping to renegotiate agreements?
  • Have you forgiven?
  • Have you both had enough time to grieve over the loss of trust/ pain?
  • Do you wish to give opportunity to make amends and start a NEW relationship with him? Or just end on good terms?
  • Is he willing and able to make amends?
  • Is him dating K or giving K up an issue to cover if you and he start a new polyship together? (At this point issues between you and K could come into play. Sort out you and A first. You do not have to do it all at once. )

Take it one thing at a time here. Both of hither admit to not caring about your feelings. Tread carefully.

In those shoes, I would bow out. Leave them to each other. Work on my own healing.

Galagirl
 
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It sounds to me like a case of attaining sex overrode his misgivings about your poly past. A year in the life really isn't that long of a relationship and some portion of that was you trying to explain your past to him and him not really taking the opportunity to educate himself. He had attained a source of sex with someone he suspected would eventually seek someone else. What to do when/if that time came was a concern that ranked lower than enjoying you till then.

So he gets to this camp, sees a lady he found attractive and used your poly past to excuse away any need for ethics. And you can either like it or lump it now because he has this other lady sprung and waiting to fill any vacancy you'll make if you can't get past it.

This other lady and how much respect she has isn't near the problem how much respect he has should be.
 
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Thank you all so much for your kind words! I can't tell you how much I appreciate your help.

Dear Kevin: I agree, the emotional disconnection happened before the affair. As you and bookbug have mentioned, it would be extremely helpful to find out what caused it and to deal with it - I believe this might be the main source of my feeling insecure (almost threatened). We are considering professional counseling, but I believe we will have problems to find a poly-friendly counselor.

It seems that what is often the most difficult to understand is when cheating occurs in poly situation. I mean in a monogamous relationship, while it's really uncool, the deceit has a certain degree of logic to it - if I tell, my partner will leave me. But in a poly dynamic, where being deceitful is totally unnecessary, one has to wonder what is driving the behavior.
THIS. My thoughts exactly. Thank you bookbug for your helpful pointers as to what could lie behind this behavior.

Dear GalaGirl: thanks for this array of questions to ask, I'm currently struggling to think in an organized way. You're right about the slow thinking - I should try and focus more on finding a calm place to really contemplate these issues.

He had attained a source of sex with someone he suspected would eventually seek someone else. What to do when/if that time came was a concern that ranked lower than enjoying you till then.
Wow. Never thought of it that way, but that might be far closer to the truth than I would like it to be. Thanks Vinccenzo.

One more question: both A and especially K are poly-newbies, and knowing about the concept is not the same as really grasping it. The ethics of polyamory and the relationship work always came quite naturally to me, but I've seen people who were struggling at the beginning, yet managed to get the hang of it eventually.
Would you say that rookie mistakes are a possible factor in this mess and should be met with more tolerance/patience? I know that ignorance and lack of experience are in no way an excuse for poor ethics - but growth in that regard doesn't happen over night, especially when you are still caught up in a mono-mindset.
 
Rookie mistakes:
It is possible.
I came to poly via an affair (prior to the affair i never even heard the term).

BUT:
that doesn't REALLY matter.

What does matter is whether or not THEY (each individually) is assessing their own behavior as inappropriate (personal accountability) and taking steps to educate themself (personal responsibility) in order to correct the behavior (personal growth) so they don't make the same "mistake" again.

Saying "I'm sorry" does not resolve an issue.
They need to make amends for the choice.

It took YEARS of work to re-earn trust after my affair.
It was my duty to figure out what i needed to do to change myself to be a trustworthy person and then DO it.

YOU can't do the work for either of them to re-earn trust.
You can be open to the possibility. But you also need to be cautious of trying to comfort yourself by doing their dirtwork as a way of making it seem like progress is made.
 
One more question: both A and especially K are poly-newbies, and knowing about the concept is not the same as really grasping it. The ethics of polyamory and the relationship work always came quite naturally to me, but I've seen people who were struggling at the beginning, yet managed to get the hang of it eventually.
Would you say that rookie mistakes are a possible factor in this mess and should be met with more tolerance/patience? I know that ignorance and lack of experience are in no way an excuse for poor ethics - but growth in that regard doesn't happen over night, especially when you are still caught up in a mono-mindset.

I can see where this could be a possibility. Understanding a concept like poly logically, and being able to apply it are two different things. I mean, I can logically see how a painting gets created, but can I do it? Nope.

Giving A the benefit of the doubt, he unfortunately did not work to refine his skills before he jumped in with both feet and made a mess of it. (As for K, I know you are concerned about her given her importance to A, but as the others have stated, your relationship is with A. That said, at 23 K is very young, and has much learning to do in general.) The question is, is A willing to recognize his errors, get at the source of them, and learn the skills it takes to be a good poly partner or not? I would suggest that his willingness to analyze and learn is the most pressing question. Saying, "Gee, I fucked up and I'm sorry," may indicate regret, but means nothing about how he wants to operate in the future.
 
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Re:
"We are considering professional counseling, but I believe we will have problems to find a poly-friendly counselor."

Ah; I have a few links to help.

Resources for finding poly-friendly counselors:

Resources to direct your counselor to if they're unfamiliar with poly:

Re (from Daenerys):
"Would you say that rookie mistakes are a possible factor in this mess and should be met with more tolerance/patience?"

I personally would vote yes: Rookie mistakes are part of what has caused (and is causing) this mess. Though I also agree with the others that A (probably K too) ought to educate himself about poly and learn how to do it right.
 
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