Cheating gf

justin

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I have been in a poly relationship for the last 5 and half years. It has gone through many different transitions and is now in the middle of another, but it is feeling much more unmanageable than in the past.

Current situation: I am a male in a V relationship with my wife of 12 years (together for 17), Dahlia, and my female lover of 5.5 years, Daisy. Daisy has been dating and has decided she wants a primary.

History: we were a quad, two couples, but the other couple divorced. The male chose to leave the relationship. The three of us continued. We were a triad for about a year, but that was not working, so we transitioned to a V, with many bumps along the way. Daisy has been clear, since her divorce, that she wants a primary. Both Dahlia and I have been supportive of that.

Problem: Daisy has been dating over the last year and things are getting more and more serious with one of her dating partners. She's recently started dating Doug (whom I have not met), and has been becoming intimate with him over the last two months. She has shared she believes she is falling in love with him. Unfortunately, she has chosen not to tell him about us, or the other relationships she has currently. I have stated I disagree with this, but felt it was her decision to do so or not. But I never believed she would go so long without telling him.

At this point, all of Daisy's relationships are being severely strained. I am very uncomfortable continuing to be open, to share, to be sexual and intimate with her. I feel she is holding out to see which prospect works out best. But this could be simply my fear and jealousy speaking. I am very uncomfortable with spending time with her in an intimate fashion. I don't like her telling Doug that she is "with friends" or "has work to do."

My thought solution: I do not feel comfortable giving Daisy a "tell him or else" ultimatum, as that seems like a power play. On the other hand, I do not feel comfortable continuing our relationship in an intimate fashion, if she is building a monogamous relationship by withholding information. We have had this conversation and awful fights. She feels like I am trying to control her. I feel like I am asking for a decision from her to either commit to this relationship, or to tell me she is no longer poly (or interested in this poly relationship), so she can explore her new relationship.

At this point, I am thinking of giving it to the end of the week, and if Daisy not come to a decision, to cut off all communication with her. At this point, I hope with a little time this could be different. I can not be just friends, and do not want to be. I will need time to mourn the loss of someone I love deeply. Daisy meets with her therapist tomorrow and has asked to have some time to decide. She has been saying this for over three weeks now. I figure giving her till the end of the week to address it is reasonable.

My problem is that, in the meantime, she is acting like nothing is wrong, asking me out, wanting to have sex, and go out, and do all the things we normally do (and plan for things in the months to come). I feel like a sham going along with it.

In the end, I believe she is struggling with whether she is poly or not. She has told me this, and this is what I have feared over the last month. Maybe she will have her needs met better in a monogamous relationship. I understand that, but I can't ride this yo-yo any longer while she decides. Am I unfair to ask her to commit or move on?

It affects so many people's lives. I do not feel it's fair for me to make the decision alone, but I don't feel like others are making a decision, just waiting it out to see what happens.

Sorry for the length, but I am at a complete loss.
 
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It doesn't sound unfair to me the way you have described things in your post. You seem to have thought this through and done your part with communicating your needs and your reservations. I think you should do what you feel you must do.

The poor other guy though.
 
It doesn't sound unfair to me the way you have described things in your post. You seem to have thought this through and done your part with communicating your needs and your reservations. I think you should do what you feel you must do.

Poor Doug, though.

I think this is unfair to Doug too. While I am very jealous, I do not want to see him go through any unnecessary heartache. I just feel like we are hitting a nexus point. They are starting to discuss family, meeting family, with the holidays coming up. This just all feels so wrong.

To be fair, the last two weeks have shown some of the ugliest sides of both Daisy and me. While I hope we are through that, I do not want to end a 5.5 year wonderful relationship with ruin and destruction. I would rather walk away keeping the wonderful memories intact, something we have not been doing recently, which I regret.

To be fair to her, her view is that she wants a primary, someone to live with. She questions if that is possible if she remains in this poly relationship, and I believe this is her way of testing that belief out. It is just really too painful to bear witness to for me, though. I wish I were stronger for her. I know she loves me and she is clear she doesn't ever want me out of her life. But she doesn't know what that means right now.
 
What's your wife's standpoint on all this?

I always hate speaking for others. I always feel as much as I try, I will not really capture their perspective accurately. But I will do my best.

Dahlia has lost a lot of respect for Daisy due to past situations like these. Dahlia has stated she doesn't trust her and feels she is reckless with people's hearts, and that I have often been pulled into her recklessness (which I believe Dahlia is right about).

With that all said, Dahlia's final words were: "I think if you stay with Daisy she is going to be reckless and hurt you. If you draw the line in the sand, I think she is going to act out. I will be there for you in either decision. I don't think there is a good decision anymore, and I am sorry for you, as I see how much pain you are going through. In the end, you are the adult, and she is the child, and that is how your relationship together has always been. You wanted a peer, and even now she isn't stepping up. You are going to have to make the decision by yourself, something I know you hate to do."
 
Hi, Justin. Welcome to the forum.

I'm feeling your pain, BrotherMan. :( I am so sorry you are in this untenable position. Here's my two cents worth (not that it's necessarily worth even that much):

Daisy is behaving deceptively in her dealings with Doug, and it is completely reasonable that you are uncomfortable with that. I personally cannot tolerate it when someone says one thing and does another. If I were in your shoes, I would be taking a "time out" while Daisy decides what course of action she wants to pursue.

But I think it is entirely possible Daisy has already decided, in that she has decided not to decide. By acting as if there is no issue at hand, she's trying to get you to go alone with her non-decision.

If it were me, I would hold her accountable, and, again, I would insist on a "time out" until she makes a choice. Then again, I might just kick her to the curb now, and resolve to invest my time and energy in people who live truthfully, because the house of cards she is building cannot long stand. :(

I'm sorry to sound so harsh, but the thing is what it is. Of course, it's easy for me to say what I'd do. I don't have my heart and 5 years invested in her. Best of luck to you, whatever you decide.
 
With that all said my wife's final words were:

I think if you stay with her she is going to be reckless and hurt you. If you draw the line in the sand, I think she is going to act out. I will be there for you in either decision. I don't think there is a good decision anymore, and I am sorry for you as I see how much pain you are going through. In the end, you are the adult and she is the child and that is how your relationship together has always been. You wanted a peer and even now she isn't stepping up. You are going to have to make the decision by yourself, something I know you hate to do.

Your wife sounds like a smart lady. You should listen to your wife ;)

Also, I now see prob'ly why it went from a triad to a V.

Oh shit, that rhymes! I'm doing it again.
 
It's done. I spent all day debating what to do, talked to friends, posted here.

How can the right decision feel so wrong?

We agreed to cut off contact until Thursday, when we will meet for breakfast. But it is pretty much done, I think. Daisy said she is leaning towards being mono.

So for now, it's beers and tears.
 
Dahlia just read this thread with me and said:

"Women and directions. Women and directions. When will you learn to listen to me about women and directions?"

I love her.
 
My wife just read this thread with me and said:

"Women and directions. Women and directions. When will you learn to listen to me about women and directions?"

I love her.
Ha. And this reminded me of the song "Girl Directions" which can be heard on Youtube. Warning: NSFW.
 
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