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Old 09-05-2009, 10:09 PM
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Do you suppose there are more bi women than bi men? Social acceptance is one matter, demograhphics are another. I just don't get why there are SO many unicorn hunters and so few male+female couples open to a male addition.
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I know a couple that he is bi and she is straight. They are krishna's (I used to be a krishna). Culturally its acceptable for the men to enjoy themselves together if they are into it in some east Indian cultures. My friend indulges often. True though, not common.
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.... They are krishna's (I used to be a krishna). Culturally its acceptable for the men to enjoy themselves together if they are into it in some east Indian cultures. My friend indulges often. True though, not common.
"A devotee of Krishna does not try to satisfy his own senses, he tries to satisfy Krishna’s senses. [....] So if we simply satisfy Krishna, the root of the entire creation, then everyone, including ourselves, will be satisfied.

On the other hand, if we try to satisfy ourselves without any connection with Krishna by sex and other things we will never actually be satisfied. This type of sense gratification is like putting fuel into a fire. [....]

Krishna says in the Bhagavad-gita that He is sex according to religious principles. So that sex, within marriage for having a nice Krishna conscious child, is very good. But otherwise sex, be it homosexual or hetrosexual is simply meant for the pleasure of the senses of the people involved. It is not being done for the service and pleasure of Krishna. So it is not allowed in Krishna consciousness.

In Krishna consciousness sex is for having nice God conscious children and such sex is Krishna Himself and is very glorious. But other sex is illicit sex and it is prohibited for a devotee."


http://krishna.org/our-opinion-on-homosexuality/

"The Homosexual Appetite of a Man for Another Man is Demoniac"
http://krishna.org/the-homosexual-ap...n-is-demoniac/


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Old 09-06-2009, 02:09 AM
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Almost all religions are alike in their embrace of heterosexuality, baby-making, monogamy..., and condemnation of all else. So much so that --for this and other reasons-- my basic attitude is to reject formal/organized religion, per se. But "spirituality" is worthy of embrace -- it's always about finding a genuine way from "within" -- one's own inquiry and meditation/prayer/inquiry.... Takes courage!
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well i'd have to go with Dragon, but that's b'c i love dragons. I am a single bi-man, although i don't know if i'm hot. then again i'm very modest when it comes to my own self image.
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let's get serious about this thread. I want to put Heffalump out there,- I've been meaning to...
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I think at least part of it is societal. First, bisexual (or lesbian) women are generally more accepted than bisexual (or gay) men. Second, many straight women would probably not marry a bisexual man due to that very reason. It's a prejudice and a stigma and not right or fair...but there you have it. IMO
When I was married, my wife (who was staight but bi-curious) was excited by the though of two woman but completely turned off by the thought of me with a man.
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When I was married, my wife (who was staight but bi-curious) was excited by the though of two woman but completely turned off by the thought of me with a man.
This is remarkably common. Men and women both are, on average, much less turned off (and often turned on) by a couple of women having sex / making love than a couple of men.

Related to this fact, I think, is that men/guys have generally been thought to "lose their masculinity" when they engage in same-sex love and passion. Yet this isn't supposed to occur with women, who, if anything, become even more feminine when engaging with other women in this way.

A man is only a "real man" if he's heterosexual, apparently (in popular culture).

I'm not sure why this is. Is it about war, warriors, warfare, somehow? You can't have any pansies on the battlefield?
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let's get serious about this thread.
I like that idea! I think maybe we should hold an election. www.polyamory.com has polling software, as I recall. I'll have to look into it. Would anyone here like to design an election process? Maybe we should run it like a US presidential erection... um..., election? (Sorry, Freudian slip!) You know, a primary and then a general election? People could then advocate for their favorite candidate, argue against certain candidates..., and in the end we should have made a good decision. We'd have to set election dates, and put word out in the larger poly online community. This would also promote our www.polyamory.com to the wider world.

Who has some volunteer time to offer to the cause?

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Most societies are patriarchal. Men (you know REAL men-the hetero, hunting, red meat eating, smoking, drinking, cowboy-soldiers ) enjoy seeing two women have sex. I think many also feel these women just need a REAL man. Look at mainstream porn. The lesbian or bi women are forever into rough and kinky and using phallic toys in every orifice. And then in comes the man they both "crave" so much. So two women=sexy is shoved down our throats. Gay or bi men are often portrayed as feminine, "swishy", less manly. And bisexual male+straight female porn is not nearly as mainstream. Women are taught to want a "manly man", not a feminine one. So, I think, women are far less likely to be attracted to a bi man and form a relationship then men are to be attracted to a bi woman.

For my part, yes, two men turn me off. It doesn't disgust me to think about. I'm not offended that it happens. I don't care what my friends of any sexuality do behind their bedroom door nor talk to me about. But I don't want to watch it. It just isn't as aesthetically pleasing to me as two women or a man and a woman. But then, I've never felt the male body was as aesthetically pleasing as the female anyway. Those odd hanging things. How does one walk with those?
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