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Old 09-13-2013, 05:05 PM
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I just want to put a different spin on this aside from the hygienic reasons. I don't intend to sound conceited or better than anyone else but I don't want to look like an ape. I'm not overly hairy but I love how it feels to be cleanly shaven. Skin-on-skin is so much better anyway.

Another point I want to make is it's culturally acceptable for women to shave legs and armpits that really took off in the 1920s. It has since been associated with feminism and I really hate it when people thinks that when a man does it, that he's feminine. I get the impression that we're at a point where it's becoming more socially acceptable for men to shave but we're just not there yet.

Last, and I'm going to sound extremely short-sighted and narrow-minded here, but I just cannot understand why hairy men are attractive. Not only that, but many women are just totally turned off at the sight or thought of a man who shaves everything. All because of cultural norms. I'd just like to think that mankind can "evolve" beyond that.

Sorry if I sound like as asshole here, I don't intend to.
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:37 PM
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Last, and I'm going to sound extremely short-sighted and narrow-minded here, but I just cannot understand why hairy men are attractive. Not only that, but many women are just totally turned off at the sight or thought of a man who shaves everything. All because of cultural norms. I'd just like to think that mankind can "evolve" beyond that.

Sorry if I sound like as asshole here, I don't intend to.
@ALpolyman, you don't sound like an asshole, just expressing a personal preference and why you just don't get the opposite personal preference.

I am not turned off by hairless men - just haven't dated anyone who shaved everywhere. I would be fine with the totally shaved guy, as long as he was fine with the fact that I don't shave completely. I don't shave my legs. Too much of a hassle. I do shave the pits to prevent smell and I trim the pubes, mostly out of courtesy. The few men I've met who shave 'down there' have expected their partners to be completely shaved too. I respect that they walk the walk, so to speak, and don't just expect a totally shaved partner while their hair runs amok. But I am not interested in shaving everywhere. And it's been such a strong preference for them, that it just stopped any interest right in its track. Of course, this is solely my experience.

Do you prefer totally shaved partners, ALpolyman? I'm curious, not dissing your preference, whatever it happens to be.

Oh, as to why hairy men can be attractive. I was a lesbian for many years. There is really something that just says 'Yup, MAN!' when running one's hand over a hairy chest. I find I like it. Quite a contrast to my relationships with women where I was thinking 'Yup, BOOBIES!' instead.

Just my two cents.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:23 PM
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To ALpolyman and opalescent: I think the ways you both see things are beautiful because that's your preference and I am glad you are sticking with some thing that makes you feel great.~

I just don't like it when people try to force their way of seeing things and doing things on other people.~


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@ALpolyman,

Oh, as to why hairy men can be attractive. I was a lesbian for many years. There is really something that just says 'Yup, MAN!' when running one's hand over a hairy chest. I find I like it. Quite a contrast to my relationships with women where I was thinking 'Yup, BOOBIES!' instead.

Just my two cents.
Bold for emphasis, this a cultural thing as you will find in different cultures around this planet that some women always shave EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE and they tattoo their entire bodies from head to toe even the children, some women NEVER shave and they are nearly hairless, and some women NEVER shave anything ever and they are hairy nearly everywhere on their bodies.~

Believe it or not, naturally many physically mature Human females grow hair on their face, their heads, their eyebrows (some times becoming a uni-brow), their armpits, their arms, their back, their abdomen, their butt, their entire legs, their crotch area, on their feet, on their hands, their ears, their necks, and even on their chests, although it's theorized by some scientists that females evolved to have less hair on their chests than the males of the Human species because it made it easier to feed the young although this is simply speculation.

And there is NOTHING WRONG WITH ANY OF THAT, IT IS ALL PERFECTLY NATURAL AND HEALTHY!!!~~

Your body is your body, you choose what you want to do with it and your life is your life and you can choose for yourself what you like and what you DON'T like.~

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Old 09-13-2013, 10:23 PM
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I just want to put a different spin on this aside from the hygienic reasons. I don't intend to sound conceited or better than anyone else but I don't want to look like an ape.
I do. I'm a human being, human beings are apes (and mammals, and vertebrates, and animals, if you go up the classification). If you like it all shaved, good for you. I don't because I think it looks less natural/human/animal, and more artificial/doll/object.

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I'm not overly hairy but I love how it feels to be cleanly shaven. Skin-on-skin is so much better anyway.
Good for you but it depends on the person. As I said earlier, skin-on-skin for me means not clitoris stimulation, while hairs stimulate me.

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Another point I want to make is it's culturally acceptable for women to shave legs and armpits that really took off in the 1920s. It has since been associated with feminism and I really hate it when people thinks that when a man does it, that he's feminine. I get the impression that we're at a point where it's becoming more socially acceptable for men to shave but we're just not there yet.
Yes, it does suck that there is a double standard. I think it's because women have been more objectified, and there are a lot of things that have the purpose of "dolling them up"such as make-up for instance but also shaving.
It's also possible that hairs are considered intimate because they grow in intimate areas, and therefore because women more commonly wear dresses and skirts than men do, shaving their legs became a "replacement" for wearing tights in making them look less naked.
I know for instance that a lot of porn magazines shaved their females more and more so they could show more and more because what was considered indecent at the time was the hairs.

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Last, and I'm going to sound extremely short-sighted and narrow-minded here, but I just cannot understand why hairy men are attractive. Not only that, but many women are just totally turned off at the sight or thought of a man who shaves everything. All because of cultural norms. I'd just like to think that mankind can "evolve" beyond that.

Sorry if I sound like as asshole here, I don't intend to.
Attraction really varies from one person to the next. I prefer hairs because it makes me feel like I'm with a person, not an inanimate object. I prefer natural smells to perfume for the same reasons. I'm certainly not the only person in that case and I don't think it's cultural. We grow hairs when we develop sexually, it makes sense to me that it would be a trigger for being turned on.
Honestly, though, finding it less attractive and less intimate when a man is shaved doesn't mean that I would break up with him or love him less. I might also prefer a hair colour to another for isntance, or a body type to another, but that's not a dealbreaker.
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Old 09-14-2013, 02:06 AM
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But whilst they are at work, commuting from work, mixing with other people, they smell. Yes, I was the one who said the next reasonable time to bathe was in the evening, but all day, they smell of urine, blood, faeces, sweat, uric acid and anything else that seeps out of your pores and clings to the hairs under your arms and between your legs. Removing excess hair from these places prevents that so you stay fresher all day, between showers. Get it now? I don't like people I have to mix with in public to stink because it makes me heave.



I have no idea why you keep bringing up circumcision. You can wash under foreskin at least once a day to maintain hygiene but you can't wash underneath hair nor get your deodrant onto your sweat glands where it needs to be. As you said, hair grows back and the person who owns the hair consents to it's removal so the two are completely, totally different and your use of bold just highlights how irrelevant this topic is.

I don't think you understand - I shave both "down there" and my underarms and it does nothing to prevent me from sweating or make deodorant work any better for me. Sometimes I wonder if getting lazor treatments would help with that. If your nose is truly that sensitive, maybe you should see a doctor about "fixing" that.
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Old 09-14-2013, 02:35 AM
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Do you prefer totally shaved partners, ALpolyman? I'm curious, not dissing your preference, whatever it happens to be.
Despite my name, my wife and I aren’t poly…yet. We were going to pursue it but she’s working on building her business and is working out some personal issues. Anyway, neither of us has any partners yet, but, if we did, I’d prefer shaved parts. I really don’t know why I’m so pro shave. I’m sure it’s due to the porn industry. Ever since I found dad’s dirty magazines when I was a kid and watched porn (but not really a lot), I thought it looked sexy. Then when I experienced the difference, I was sold. I fully admit that I’m kind of like the Tea Party is to Republicans about grooming and how the porn industry and magazines and so on are in our face about hairless bodies. With women, I’d be ok with the normal stuff shaved; armpits, legs but I’d prefer the vaginal area be trimmed at a minimum. It’s hard to get suction while focusing on the clit with a bunch of hairs in the way…sends my wife to the moon!

Tonberry, I fully accept that we are glorified apes. I guess the reason I sound so frustrated is this: One of my best friends, a single mother of two, knows that my wife and I want to do the poly thing. I’ve given some consideration to seeing how she would feel “giving us a try”. We’re very open about a lot of things. The other day, she mentioned her ex-husband had everything shaved (indicated by his shaved arms) and that was a perfect segway into the fact that I shave. She can’t stand shaved men. She thinks that men ‘should’ have hair and that’s the way it’s meant to be. I tried to counter that by saying it was only about a century ago that women started shaving and that it’s the cultural norm. My point being that why can’t we redefine what the norm is…she didn’t bite LOL. Where I’m going with this is that even if I wanted to ask how she’d feel in a poly relationship, I won’t now because of her response. I guess I got the vibe that it’s a huge turn-off so I just won’t go there.
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Old 09-14-2013, 06:56 AM
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I guess the reason I sound so frustrated is this: One of my best friends, a single mother of two, knows that my wife and I want to do the poly thing. [...] She can’t stand shaved men. She thinks that men ‘should’ have hair and that’s the way it’s meant to be.
I understand your frustration. I think it always sucks to be rejected, and when it's not because of who you are but because of an aspect of you, it feels unfair. I definitely don't think it means all women will reject you, even among those who happen to prefer more hairs.

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I don't think you understand - I shave both "down there" and my underarms and it does nothing to prevent me from sweating or make deodorant work any better for me.
You actually sweat more if you don't have hairs. One function of hairs (and the reason why we have them under our arms) is to trap the sweat so it can keep cooling the skin and you don't have to keep producing it. Without the hairs, unless you use anti-perspirant, you'll sweat constantly instead of just enough for the hairs to trap it and keep you cool.

While sweating had a very important purpose originally (keeping out bodies colds when it was hot and/or during exercise), nowadays we have access to showers, freezers, A/C and many other things that we can use to cool ourselves down, so antiperspirant is an option (just don't forget to regulate your temperature if you use it, but that's not that much of a risk in most technological countries).

Now, it's certainly possible to smell the sweat trapped in someone's armpit hairs. But it's not more likely than being able to smell the sweat that has dripped from them shaved armpits over their sides, onto their clothes, onto their arms and so on. So while I can absolutely believe you have a strong sense of smell and can smell some people's body odors to a bothersome degree, are you certain that the people you can smell are not shaved, or that the people you can't smell are? For all you know, both are either.
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Old 09-14-2013, 12:04 PM
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i have been completely shaving down there for a lot of years. I like how close my wife and GF's pussies feel. I think they like that too. and when we really get going it feels like we are joined at the crotch.
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:45 PM
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I had a vasectomy back in 86 (it didn't take), anyway my wives had fun with me and shaved everything, surprisingly I enjoy the feeling of being bare. These days the ladies are divided on this, Jo likes me hairy, and Marie likes me clean shaven, so I've compromised and leave my pubes hairy and shave everything else. Btw if you enjoy erotic e stim not having any hair avoids nasty shocks when the energy travels along the hairs.
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:37 AM
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What a thread! I snorted my tea at one point and the hubby now thinks I'm crazy. LOL

I shave bare down there as does my hubby. In fact, unless other men will be seeing his legs, he shaves off all hair. He's a tattooer and has a fascination with skin, even his own. He says it also helps keep body odor down. I do it because he likes it. He's actually the only man I've ever dated that shaved anything other than his face. I have to admit I like it. I enjoy how it looks and not hacking up the occasional hair ball.
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