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Old 01-20-2013, 02:58 AM
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I recently read an article in Psychology Today regarding the differences between men and women when it comes to bisexuality. One part of the study interviewed women and who defined themselves as gay or straight. Not only were straight women much more likely to have had sexual experiences with the same sex than straight men, but gay women were also much more likely to have had sexual experiences with the opposite sex than gay men.

The second part of the study involved measuring the sexual arousal of straight men and women when shown homosexual porn, and vice versa with gay men and women. (This was done scientifically, not subjectively, by measuring blood flow to certain regions.) Again, straight women were significantly more likely to be aroused by the same sex, as well as gay women by the opposite sex.

The study seemed to indicate that in general, female sexuality tends to be more fluid, while male sexuality more rigid. Often people think this might be because of men's social conditioning, i.e. is less socially acceptable for men to have same sex experiences. However, this would not account for the fact that gay women were much more likely to have opposite sex experiences than gay men.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:14 AM
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Interesting points. I'm curious, couldn't there also be rigid social conditioning in the gay male community that is similar to the rigid heterosexual male social conditioning?
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:00 PM
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The second part of the study involved measuring the sexual arousal of straight men and women when shown homosexual porn, and vice versa with gay men and women. (This was done scientifically, not subjectively, by measuring blood flow to certain regions.) Again, straight women were significantly more likely to be aroused by the same sex, as well as gay women by the opposite sex.
I think I read about that same study in Sex Before Dawn. It also found that women had increased blood flow and wetness when viewing any sexual act from things they claimed interest in, to no interest in, and even to those they claimed disgusted them. It was suggested to be somewhat of an auto injury prevention attempt in the case of rape. If that is the case then it wouldn't necessarily indicate women are more likely to be bi.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:00 AM
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Yes, I too have read studies in which they compared physical "arousal" effects (such as in the genitals) to the brain, and noticed that generally, if the person said they were not attracted to something, then it was reflected in their brain in different areas, even when their genitals were "ready" for sex. It could happen to men, as well, they could have an erection without being actually aroused intellectually.

It is also absolutely true that the female body can protect from rape by lubricating, etc when the person is rape, no matter how horrifying it is and how much they're unwilling. It can also happen in clinical contexts, such as at the gynecologist, even if the person has no medical fetish and is absolutely not aroused.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:39 AM
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I think it may be wise to point out that the 'protection' from rape that is stated is protection from physical damage from rape.

That is not really very clear and might confuse some people who have not read the papers that have been referred to.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:56 PM
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Yes, of course. Emotional trauma remains the same, and the potential for getting pregnant is actually increased by the increase in lubrication. So it's neither protection from the emotional effects nor from pregnancy, only from some of the physical damage.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:58 PM
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That's why I said INJURY prevention and not rape prevention.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:15 AM
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Yes, of course. Emotional trauma remains the same, and the potential for getting pregnant is actually increased by the increase in lubrication. So it's neither protection from the emotional effects nor from pregnancy, only from some of the physical damage.
Which is rather interesting, from an evolutionary point of view... Nature doesn't care about consent, it cares about making babies. Anything that facilitates making babies provides a species-survival advantage. Also, physical damage from rape reduces chances of making babies: species-survival disadvantage.

Could even take that in the other direction: girl-on-girl action stimulates men and lubricates women? Increases the probability of coitus, and of that coitus leading to reproduction: another evolutionary advantage.

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Old 01-22-2013, 09:57 AM
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Could even take that in the other direction: girl-on-girl action stimulates men and lubricates women? Increases the probability of coitus, and of that coitus leading to reproduction: another evolutionary advantage.

Curious.
According to Sex at Dawn, one of the best ways to increase sperm production/sexual desire in males is more akin to what we would colloquially call Hotwife or cuckoldry.
I understand your idea it is very interesting from an evolutionary standpoint but I do think it is interesting that the most profitable way to increase sperm is the most culturally fought against even amongst Poly's. The strength of the OPP probably elevates girl on girl sex as being the most desirable for male observers but actually men get more turned on by MF sex but tend to be disgusted by it wrt their own partners due to cultural sexual jealousy, GonG is seen as less of a threat to the man.

Interesting

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Old 01-23-2013, 02:51 AM
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I am very new to the poly life so I am joining in not based on what I've seen but based on being the bisexual woman. I am just going to talk about what brought me to this life. I have been bisexual for as long as I can remember, although I did not come out to anyone (including myself) until after the end of my 1st marriage almost 10 years ago. Part of the reason that marriage ended was due to the fact that I was forced to act only straight. My ex was not interested in me being with anyone else, female or not. I moved on and made sure my next partner (now my husband of almost 7 years) was ok with me being with women. However, even with an open relationship I was not happy. I feel that, for me, I am both attracted to men and women. Therefore, I want and need both in my life simultaneously. However, I still want the stable long term partner, not just a FWB. So keeping in mind that I am bi and need both and the fact that I want the long term relationship with both parties, it is natural to me to want a situation where both of my partners live with me and are involved with everyone involved. (Hope that made sense to you guys.)
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