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it is very funny
whatever I write here, in this forum, there is always someone that comes to say that I am stupid. Or, in the opposite, is it "the stupid" (= the person that only understands his/her own brain) that comes to show he/she is the stupid one ? big philosophy problem............. |
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Maybe it'd help if you don't post such sweeping generalizations. I know that's what I reacted to in your posts. The one was better because it did acknowledge that this is the case in your poly family but you don't know about other poly families.
I still ask curious what you meant by installing harmony. It's a phrase I haven't heard before. |
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installing harmony...
whatever the human group, tensions arise. Normal results of normal differences. We noticed (our company gives trainings) that "100% male groups" are sometimes very close to heavy disputes. And "it is just enough to put a woman inside" and all tensions go down,to a level of "mutual a acceptance" = the woman installed/brought harmony. Persons = music instruments. Different instruments may play a nice music. If YES "harmony is installed" |
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Then going on to say those who disagree with your thoughts might be stupid and incapable of understanding anything but their own brain... (I'm sorry, I confess I only skimmed, but I didn't see anyone call you stupid; I only saw people having some different opinions from yours. Hopefully no one is calling anyone stupid.) |
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And actually, the only possibly disparaging remarks I saw were those that stated that people like me weren't as adaptable (because I'm not a female bisexual). And I think you made those remarks if I'm not mistaken. Now I've got no problem with you making those remarks (I agree and think women in general are better at many things BUT also worse in other ways then men). They're your opinions. But what's with the victim thing? No one's havin a go at you mate, just a good discussion where each others opinions might be respectfully challenged. .
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You might stimulate more productive dialogue if you had phrased your question more accurately and, rather than make broad generalizations, present more factual supporting points. You know for fact that the women in your poly family are bisexual. Good point to make. Who can argue with that? You have noticed the bisexual women who you are involved with are sharper (or however you care to describe them) than other women you know. Also an acceptable statement without coming across as potentially arrogant. One could assume you make good choices in partners, yay you. You even went so far as to try to equate "real" polys with bisexuality, ruling out at least most straight women by default. Just my humble opinion: If you are going to make careless statements, be a bit more willing to weather the, what so far have been, relevant and respectful reactions to your statement without implying, however passive-aggressively, that those people are stupid or small-minded. Phoenix.
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Frankly, you come across as incredibly arrogant. YOU are philosophical. YOU have all the answers. YOUR role is "building the progresses of the other one". WE are all stupid shmucks if we don't appreciate your wonderful lessons on "Life as it SHOULD be lived". Some of your other quotes: Quote:
You started off an interesting discussion here, then said "Tell me your thoughts, please" Then, when people don't see things the way you do, you criticise them, or pretend that you're on some higher level of illumination. As far as I can see, nobody here has been abusive, aside from you. (I enjoyed redpepper's gentle sarcasm - but it was gentle.) I don't want to be abusive either, but I can't help imagining that poly family of yours... (screen starts to wobble or mist over) a) Judging by your avatar, you're a handsome [attractive], middle-aged man. Judging from your expression, you are well aware of that. b) From your statements, you're in the teaching profession. c) You say that all the women in your poly family are bisexual. d) You say that you prefer bisexual women, that you find them more intelligent, more open, etc. etc. e) You say to another member here: "So, please my darling, don't be afraid to become bisexual, I will help you." I put that all in the blender and ask you: 1) Are any of the women in your family [ex-] students of yours? 2) How many men are in your family? Are they also alphas? Or are you the only one? 3) Do you just invite into your family the kind of woman who is likely to be bisexual? 4) Has it ever occured to you that some of these young, impressionable, hero-worshipping women in your family might be practicing bisexuality as a way to "please the teacher"? I mean, if they find you attractive and want your approval, and ALSO know that you think less favourably of women who AREN'T bisexual, don't you think that JUST MAYBE that might influence their behaviour? 5) Aren't "adaptable", "able to change" sometimes pseudonyms for "pliable", "easily moulded"? I LOVE women: straight women, bi women, lesbians, young women, old women, women my age. But I'd never think to offer to "help" a woman to become bi - or lesbian or straight. I would certainly offer to support her through any shit that she was going through from people [friends and/or family] who rejected her choices... And if I suggested to a woman that she was a violin on which I was going to "play the most wonderful symphonies she may sing"... Well, I hope that she'd either laugh in my face or give me a smack in the gob.
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It is a honour to receive such a nice collection of interesting mails
thanks to MrFarFromRight Senior Member polychronopolous Member BreatheDeeply Member Just to increase the friendship of this forum, I give here some short answers to questions I put that all in the blender and ask you: 1) Are any of the women in your family [ex-] students of yours? NO, NOT AT ALL 2) How many men are in your family? Are they also alphas? Or are you the only one? ALL MEN HAVE THE SAME STYLE, no "guru" 3) Do you just invite into your family the kind of woman who is likely to be bisexual? WE INVITE ONLY A WOMAN THAT WANTS TO BE/LIVE WITH US 4) Has it ever occured to you that some of these young, impressionable, hero-worshipping women in your family might be practicing bisexuality as a way to "please the teacher"? I mean, if they find you attractive and want your approval, and ALSO know that you think less favourably of women who AREN'T bisexual, don't you think that JUST MAYBE that might influence their behaviour? WE ALL TRY TO PLEASE TO THE OTHER ONES (it is a "basic rule") 5) Aren't "adaptable", "able to change" sometimes pseudonyms for "pliable", "easily moulded"? FAST/BAD INTERPRETATIONS ARE FREQUENTLY IMPERFECT AND FALSE |
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I didn't send you any mail.
Phoenix.
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It's not just women. I meet a lot of bisexual or heteroflexible men in poly situations as well. Maybe they're quieter on here... but I think the fact that a person can explore and enjoy more facets of their sexuality in poly bring this out regardless of sex. I definitely felt that as a draw myself even though my initial poly relationships were with men (I always liked women, I just was had no practice and was nervous as can be).
Not saying you have to be bi to explore facets. That's just one way. Last edited by Katze; 01-20-2013 at 01:54 AM. |
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