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Old 08-02-2010, 02:05 PM
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Default Ejaculation...

... of the female kind.

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And then there's female ejaculation, but that's a whole different discussion entirely...
That could be a 100 page thread all by it's self! LOL

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I just received a long write up about that subject. All about HOW to achieve that spectacular event.
Was that a link to a website? Care to share?

The best book I've read on the subject is

Female Ejaculation and the G-Spot: Not Your Mother's Orgasm Book!

http://www.amazon.com/Female-Ejacula...0757482&sr=1-4

There is still way too much denial out there that women can ejaculate. Even in books on how to give women great orgasms, some will downplay the g-spot or deny it exists entirely.

So many people think females can't ejaculate, that it is just pee, or that the porn you see of women cumming that way is faked.

The best experiment I read about was one woman who was able to ejaculate, took a medication that turned her urine blue. Then she masturbated to ejaculation and found that that fluid was not deep blue, it was still clear or maybe just tinged with blue (b/c since the ejaculate travels thru the urethra, a little pee might be washed down the pipe along with the ejaculate.)

I've got more to say but don't want the OP to be tl;dr, so I will open this up to others' experiences.
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Old 08-02-2010, 02:09 PM
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C&p'ed from other thread

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Tts a fantastic experience. I introduced one of my ex'es to the possibility. I still remember the look on her face when got to that point. Very cool thing to be able to pull off. More for her than me, for the next few months of our "relationship" we played with anything and everything to make it bigger and bigger, trying to compete with ourselves for distance...

yep, good times
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Old 08-02-2010, 04:22 PM
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This is what was sent to me. Hope you learn something from it, or at least maybe pick up some new ideas or possibly even achieve the big wet ONE.

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The medical community was finally awakened in 1980 when Perry and Whipple showed a film of a female ejaculating to the SSSS (Society for the Scientific Study of Sex). Martin Weisberg, M.D., a gynecologist at Thomas Jefferson University Hospital in Philadelphia responded, "Bull ... I spend half my waking hours examining, cutting apart, putting together, removing, or rearranging female reproductive organs. There is no female prostrate, and women don't ejaculate." Yet after seeing the film and witnessing the event in person he changed his tune: "The vulva and vagina were normal with no abnormal masses or spots. The urethra was normal. Everything was normal. She then had her partner stimulate her by inserting two fingers into the vagina and stroking along the urethra lengthwise. To our amazement, the area began to swell. It eventually became a
firm one by two cm oval area distinctly different from the rest of the vagina. In a few moments the subject seemed to perform a Valsalva maneuver (bearing down as if starting to defecate) and seconds later several cc's of milky fluid shot
out the urethra. The material analysis described in the paper (Perry & Whipple's) is correct, its composition was closest to prostatic fluid".



Fluid Characteristics
The ejaculate is very much like prostrate fluid. It is usually clear, or milky and as thin as water. It does not have the look, smell or taste of urine. It is almost odorless. The taste varies, depending on the time of the month and diet, and possibly other factors, such as amount of stimulation received prior to ejaculating or time since the last ejaculation. It can vary from an almost honey sweet, sour, bitter, or a combination of these tastes.

Even though it is ejaculated from the urethra, it is most definitely not urine. It is absolutely impossible to pee during an orgasm unless there is a weak pubococcygeus muscle. This is very important, and it is important for the female and her partner to both understand this. The pubococcygeus muscle contracts when terminating a stream of urine, and is the muscle which contracts during orgasm. This contraction helps prevent retrograde ejaculation (ejaculation back into the bladder), and of course prevents the bladder from draining during orgasm.


Problems Women have Ejaculating
I think there are two major problems women face that prevents them from the immensely enjoyable experience of ejaculation. They are the female's mental attitude, and their partner's inability or unwillingness to spend the time and
effort during lovemaking and to learn the necessary techniques. We will address both of these problems and the solutions here.


The ejaculation is done through the urethra. This is the same tube that is used for urination. It is located outside the vagina, between it and the clitoris. The fluid is water like, and non- lubricating. In no way does ejaculation improve the chances of conceiving, it offers no lubrication, and is dumped
outside of the vagina. The only conceivable purpose of female ejaculation is for pleasure. And the pleasure is intense, in many cases far surpassing the best
orgasm's. Often ejaculation takes place during both a clitoral and a vaginal orgasm (yes there are two type of orgasms, clitoral and vaginal, but often orgasm is a combination of the two), giving the female extreme pleasure, sort of a triple whammy. Sometimes after ejaculation, the female will virtually pass out from the intense feelings.


It can be argued that since the only reason that females can and do ejaculate is for pleasure, then there should be no reason for them to not do so, and as often as they please. It is one of the safer sex acts, since in most cases it can be
triggered with fingers alone. Ejaculating from intercourse is more difficult, especially when performed from the missionary position, but still possible.



Preparation Recommendations for the Woman's Partner
Wash hands well. Trim fingernails. Make sure that the thumb, and first two finger nails do not extend past the fingertips. Trimming them as far back as possible would be best. Make sure that there is no dirt or crud under the fingernails.


Place a towel on the bed. A surprising amount of fluid can be released during female ejaculation. Compared to a male it can be like a water cannon instead of a water pistol.


Have some K&Y Jelly handy. At some point, additional lubrication may be necessary, even if she is having heavy orgasms and climaxes.


Set aside enough time. The first successful ejaculation may take from 10 minutes to over an hour.


It may be wise to exercise your hands, fingers, and arm for several days prior to this exercise. The motions necessary can become quite tiring after a while if you are not in good physical shape.


Before beginning the first time, discuss it. Let her know that you are striving to give her an ejaculation. That female ejaculation is perfectly normal, and a wonderful experience for both of you. Convince her that there is nothing to be
embarrassed about or ashamed of. Explain that just prior to ejaculation, she most likely will feel like she is about to pee. This is a difficult point for many women, as they will immediately draw back. Convince her that it is normally
impossible to pee during an orgasm, and that the feeling is simply the first sign she is about to ejaculate.


Since the movement of the fluid through the urethra will initially feel exactly like when she starts to pee, this is very important. The reflex to stop peeing will immediately abort the ejaculation, so she needs to be told to relax, and allow the fluid to pass. In other words when she feels like she is about to pee, she should go ahead and pee. Only it really won't be pee, it will be an ejaculation, and within a couple of seconds it will be very obvious to her that this is something quite different. Once she knows the feeling, she will be able
to push it out once it starts, with astounding results. It is best for the partner to be sitting between her legs at this time, else she may overshoot the towel or even wet the far wall.


Once she has ejaculated, rejoice with her. Don't make fun, or a joke. If you do it may be the last time she will be able to ejaculate, at least in your presence. Unlike a man, this is not the end. You can continue, and she may well have multiple orgasms and ejaculations with further stimulation.


Technique
Start slow. Use typical foreplay. You may want to start with her on her back.


Stimulate the clitoris. This can be done with a moist finger, or with your tongue. Performing cunnilingus while rubbing her breasts with your hands can be quite stimulating for her. At any rate, continue clitoral stimulation until she is lubricated. At this point slide two fingers into her vagina. Allow them to move along the front wall of the vagina. You should encounter an area about 2 inches in, which should be somewhat enlarged. This is the G spot. It lies directly along the urethra, and is located almost directly behind the clitoris.


Slowly stroke this area. It should start becoming more enlarged.


Ejaculation is almost always triggered by stimulating the G spot. Clitoral stimulation can often assist in helping her reach an ejaculation, and also can make it more intense. But stimulating the G spot is usually necessary at least initially. Once she starts ejaculating easily, she may find that clitoral
stimulation alone is sufficient.


Stroking can be done a number of ways. The two fingers can rub the area as a unit, or they can take opposite strides, similar to walking. A third method involved sliding the two finders out a fraction of an inch, and pushing them back in, similar to the in- out motion of intercourse, but with smaller strokes.


Initially pace the stimulation somewhat slow. Alternate with clitoral stimulation either with the thumb, other hand, or mouth/tongue. Also try simultaneous stimulation of the clitoris and G spot. Watch her reactions.


Simultaneous may be too intense for some but necessary for ejaculation for others. Take your cues from her. When she starts bearing down, and you feel the vagina contract, begin pumping rapidly. When she is in the middle of an orgasm,
stimulate the clitoris at the same time, and pump the G spot gently, but very rapidly. Talk to her. Say, "your getting it, go for it, don't worry, relax and let it come" or other similar words. She may need reassurance that if she drenches you, you will not be upset. Tell her how erotic you find it for her to ejaculate. Make her comfortable with both you, and the idea of ejaculation.


This actually is not the best position. If she does not succeed after a short time, have her roll over on her stomach, and get up on her knees. You will find stimulating the G spot much easier in this position, and she will most likely respond much better. With the two fingers turned down, slide your two fingers back into her vagina. Find the G spot and continue stimulating the G spot. You may use the other hand to stimulate the clitoris. If after a couple of orgasms, using rapid pumping on the G spot during orgasm, she still has not ejaculated, then turn the hand around, putting the thumb into the vagina.
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Old 08-02-2010, 04:23 PM
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And the rest of the article:

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The thumb will likely not reach the G spot, but don't worry, it should come up to meet the thumb during orgasm. Take the two fingers and lay them down on the clit. Allow the entire curve between the thumb and forefinger to lie along her
from the vagina to her clitoris, and begin pumping with the thumb, and rubbing the clit at the same time. When she starts an orgasm, start pumping the entire hand rapidly. At this point she will most likely ejaculate. The trick is to
massage the area where the urethra comes out, while stimulating the clitoris and G spot. This will help to override the feeling she is about to pee, and allow her to let it pass.


Be aware that the female is not only capable of multiple orgasms, but also multiple ejaculations. It is not unusual for her to have from 3 to 5 ejaculations before depleting her supply of cum. Once she has ejaculated one or more times, you can continue with intercourse. Entering from behind will
stimulate the G-spot more easily than missionary style, and often additional ejaculations will occur during intercourse. Even if they don't, she will be highly excited, and very sensitive. The final result will most likely be the
most intense and pleasurable sex she has ever had.
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I actually found the most difficult task was me convincing the girls I have done this with, is to convince them I don't mind the peeing on me. Yes I use those words specifically because, apparently, this is what it feels like. It is NOT pee...but the embarrassment of the potential urination is a big deal to work past mentally. Once they have done it and realize it isn't urination, thats a big mental block to get past. (it looks tastes and feels very different than urine...little closer to semen but much much thinner in texture)

Most of the ejaculations I have experienced had different techniques speeds and toys. i tend to enoy a little sexual torture with massive build up. But that requires a woman who doesn't loose her orgasm when being teased with orgasm witdrawl. I find the accumulated affect can create the ejaculate quite powerfully...

Lastly, in my experience. The first time don't lay anything out to catch the ejaculate. It can make the girl uncomfortable...by the end of my time with my ex, we were laying out plastic sheets in a 3 to 4 ft range. She became some comfortable we ended up making it a game of distance.

oh...and don't put pressure on here. Not all girls can do it with all partners. My ex ended up with her gf who wanted to out perform me in every way. So she put a lot of pressure on my ex to ejaculate...that was unfair and, ended up counter productive in many ways in the end.

I gotta say, I miss it a bit haha...its been a decade since I have been with a female who could ejaculate. ...
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I caught a bit of an informative workshop on female ejaculation.

I fully believe every woman can ejaculate - if given the right set of circumstances and she's able to overcome HER mental block with it.

I have had all of ONE g-spot orgasm - without ejaculation.

I want want want more.

I have seen others do it - and think its fascinating.

Just need to find the one who can help me get to that point. Apparently I get rather.. umm... tight when I get to that point - and with hubby's arthritis....

Someday... I'll be in a situation where it happens ... and then it will happen again and again....
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Try a vibrator. Or your own hand . Be persistent. When i first started squirting i could only do it with my husband after several Os, but after a while could do it myself on the first O. It just took practice.

Sometimes now, I do it before actually cumming. The theory is this ejaculate's use is to wash sperm away, thereby making the next person you mate with have more chance for his sperm!
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Try a vibrator. Or your own hand . Be persistent. When i first started squirting i could only do it with my husband after several Os, but after a while could do it myself on the first O. It just took practice.
I have a toy specifically designed for it. It is something I enjoyed - but haven't made the time for it recently. Will have to revisit that with him tonight
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I have had all of ONE g-spot orgasm - without ejaculation.
As a...not an fyi...but a bout of realism, I have found g-spot on all of my partners, it does not signify a ejaculation in anyway. I will continue trying dagnabbit, but it doesn't mean it happens

Pengrah, for example, has a prominent g-spot and I can make her orgasm easily. 10 years of trying, various toys, tools, methods...not a squirt...does that mean it won't happen, hell no...it could very well happen under the right circumstances...but we are talking countless g-spot orgasms ...
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As a...not an fyi...but a bout of realism, I have found g-spot on all of my partners, it does not signify a ejaculation in anyway. I will continue trying dagnabbit, but it doesn't mean it happens
Part of that workshop was a note that women who are 'dewy' or 'moist' all the time have a tendency to 'leak' ejaculate continually - makes me wonder... because I am like that... still have to play with my g-spot - see if I can make that happen again
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