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View Poll Results: Is masturbation sex?
I'm a woman and I vote yes 28 24.14%
I'm a woman and I vote no 28 24.14%
I'm a man and I voted yes 16 13.79%
I'm a man and I vote no 25 21.55%
I'm gender-variant and I vote yes 1 0.86%
I'm gender-variant and I vote no 1 0.86%
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:49 PM
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OK, so by a small margin, survey says, masturbation is not sex, because sex has to involve 2 individuals.

I'm tempted to be snarky and say, if you're masturbating and it doesn't feel like sex to you, you must be doing it wrong.
Sarkyness asside I'm with Darby, validin and raise (etc).

I have masterbated for as long as i can remember, I am fortunate and was never abused however I masterbated way, way before I knew what sex is. The earliest fantasies I used for masterbation were entirely non "sexy." It was purely a physical relief, relaxation, pleasure. It was only as i reached ouberty I became aware it had anything to do with sex. TBH I wondered if my early masterbation has fed into my being asexy, but I don't think so as not wanking never made me more liable to fancy anyone. Only poly has realy conected me with my sexuality. It's odd masterbating was never "sexy" for me before (even though I increasingly used erotica/porn) and although like you Magdelen I would have a solo session because I prefer it to casual sex, I still wouldn't have considered it sex per say, because my emotions were not involved, just pleasure/deep relaxation. I think I stand by sex being "intercourse" and agree with raise that it doesn't have to include genitals. (mebs thats just an asexy perspective) the "sexiest" experiences of my life so far have not been sex. We'll see if this changes, cheers for the food for thought ) x
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It was purely a physical relief, relaxation, pleasure. It was only as i reached ouberty I became aware it had anything to do with sex.
I didn't full-on masturbate as a child, but I did rub on stuff a lot and it was well-before knowing what sex was. It was just a release I wanted, then as I learned about sex and erotica out there, that got incorporated. Definitely not an emotional thing, as sex is for me.

Now if were talking about mutual masturbation, that's a little different. I'd start putting that in the sex category and all the other sexual things between two people. If you're emotionally involved and physically/sexually enjoying it, then it's sex.
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Masturbation isn't sex any more than a transdermal patch is smoking.
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masturbation isn't sex any more than a transdermal patch is smoking.
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Masturbation isn't sex any more than a transdermal patch is smoking.
My orgasms would argue differently
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Old 10-18-2010, 01:17 PM
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Hmm, I recently read about masturbation being like sneezing, as some people experience it. Like there's physically an orgasm, but not the rush of pleasure.

Does this happen to any of you?

I occasionally have a similar thing happen, that I've heard described as a "missed orgasm". But for me it can happen during sex or masturbation, with about the same infrequency.

If this did happen regularly to me while masturbating, it would be hard to consider it sex.
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Old 10-18-2010, 01:35 PM
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I think for some men, the orgasm itself can be a letdown. I have heard this more frequently from circed men, btw. Intact men tend to have more intense full body orgasms.

I guess if you have a sort of meh orgasm, you mightve been masturbating or having sex quite frequently? Doesnt taking a day or 2 off result in stronger Os? Rhetorical question, not directed at you, anotherbo.
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I have "meh" orgams more frequently with masturbation than sex... but not really very often even then, though I certainly find that the more I have of either the chance of a "meh" orgasm increases.
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I've been taking an informal poll of this irl and would like your thoughts. Please post why you voted yes or no.

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As a shrink who also had training during residency in sexual issues, one teacher thought of masturbation as making love to ones-self. It also is the most reliable form of pleasuring physically. So I would argue a yes, it still counts. (unless you are one of those peeps who needs to count notches on your bed post - it does not count as a conquest).
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Old 10-23-2010, 10:38 AM
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By the way, though I am really well educated about Jewish law, I am far from a traditionalist (best described attitude would be God is great and the rest is politics and bunk when it comes to organized religions), in a lot of ways. I think masturbation, whether one considers it sex or not is a great way to get relief if an emotionally appropriate partner is not available. For me emotionally appropriate is indeed a longer term partner, but for other people their personal definition of emotionally appropriate may vary greatly.
Onanism as strictly defined and restricted in the Bible anyway has nothing to do with masturbation, it is specifically a then extant type of pagan fertility ritual or perhaps even the biblical character was a worshiper of a Cybele like deity, so instead of interpreting things overly broadly which a lot of homophobic and sex phobic people have, I tend to interpret biblical restrictions narrowly.
That is by the way why I pointed out how narrow the actual Biblical restrictions are, because a lot of people turn to the Bible to justify their homophobia, and actually, there is nothing in the Bible to justify this. Not to mention the Bible has a great homosexual/?bisexual relationship between David and Jonathan.
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