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Old 06-24-2010, 05:05 PM
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maybe i'm too flexible...well, yeah i definitely am. But, it just seems, like the above suggestion, there are hundreds of ways to balance a relationship if the parties are flexible and willing enough
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:59 PM
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maybe some people love "guilt NRE?"
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:16 PM
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Do you really want to be with her? Or are you staying because you feel she needs you and you kind of feel nostalgia/guilt/ a need to fix things and have them be as they should?

Does being with her (and the anxiety and problems that brings) make you really happy or do you reckon you could be happier somewhere else, with someone else? Are you staying for the kids? Kids prefer stability, whether parents are together or divorced, so long as things are peaceful and on good terms that is way better than shaky uncertainties and knowing someone is hurting.

Based on what I've experienced I say sometimes love really isn't enough. If a person treats you really badly and you can't truly be who you are with them or are controlled, manipulated and constantly limited by them, you just have to decide what you want and what you can handle. Can you be there as a friend? Can you not be there at all? (If she is a really toxic influence on your life). Do you WANT to be the person that you are with her?

Ultimately it's up to you. Based on the way you express yourself I suspect you know what you want to do already but are kind of wanting someone to tell you it is ok to do what you want.

PS: The reason she wants to be monogamous MAY be because she wants YOU to be faithful to HER.
In my own opinion: I would leave her. You have been there for her WAY too many times and she blatantly uses you, she seems to have no remorse and seems to treat you really badly, almost as a back-up plan (I'm sorry dude, that's really harsh, but it really seems that she has no concern for what you feel so long as you are there for her. )
You have rights and feelings too and need to live a life in which you do not feel that you are someone else's property instead of what you are probably feeling by this point: that none of your own desires, personality and priorities are allowed to matter the way hers do.

You don't need permission or approval to live your life, all you need is "I want this. I choose this." (Just be honest and decent with people, remember the golden rule.) Remember: life is not a law court. You don't need to give evidence and win the argument or justify anything to anyone. YOU have the power to make your own decisions.). Don't put up with someone who continues to lie and cheat. You deserve much better and it sounds like some women out there have noticed this and appreciate you for who you really are. Just never make the mistake of leaving your real friends for those who treat you as expendible. Don't do what she is doing.
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:43 PM
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Ttree, you're unlikely to get an answer to your questions.
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:06 PM
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Haha! I should really check these last posted dates... Thanks
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:41 AM
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You guys were really helpful and hit the nail on the head with a lot of your statements. As I posted this her and I "dated" each other (didn't live together) for over 2 years. We moved back in together May of 2012. She started acting different immediately after. She got even better at hiding affairs and her affairs became even more reckless, she had a stalker showing up at work with the police getting involved.

My beloved SIL who helped her with a lot of these affairs introduced her to this guy. I never found out until months later. We split up In December of last year. Thank God it's over. She is now with her last affair partner. The comment about nostalgia and remembering how things were was exact. It's all behind me now and life has been amazingly drama free. My mind isn't 100% back to normal yet but it's really close. Life moves forward
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Old 08-14-2013, 04:05 PM
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I don't know if it has already been said but...

I get the impression there are things you are not telling us about this relationship that are pretty important. You are quick to point out the number of times she has cheated on you. From reading your post, it sounds like you don't care if she had feelings for the other men... As long as she never had sex with them then maybe you don't care?

Maybe she feels that you want more than her in the relationship. You verbalize as much by bringing up swinging and trying to turn her poly.

Maybe she is acting out from an emotional low where other men make her feel like she is the only one they want in a monogamous way. However, there is a chance that isn't true if she is openly cheating with another married guy.

So maybe she's got some qualities begging for an open relationship at times... But it sounds like passing urges in between the moments where she feels normal and truly happy... Which I gather might actually be the monogamous moments of her life, regardless of who the man is.

I don't think founding a forced poly relationship between two partners who can't tell the truth is a bad idea. It doesn't sound like she says she wants more than one guy. It sounds like she wants a guy who only has eyes for her, even if only for temporary amounts of time. If that man's eyes wander... She looks for another guy who only sees her. By saying your solution is swinging, you are saying you don't just want her. If she truly feels monogamy is her thing, you should both consider other solutions.

The fact that you are here on a poly site while asking your wife to do open relationship things with you... Sounds like you are the one who is poly and not communicating that well to your wife.

I'm not saying that her lying and cheating is valid. It was definitely not the right move on her part. But as I saw in the first reply... You both need to communicate better.

It starts with telling her anything about you that you may feel you've hidden from her in the past. Anything as simple as "I think other are girls are pretty, but I don't love you less because of it." It will start a dialogue that will either make her feel better or spark some honesty from her. She might tell you that she doesn't like certain things about your relationship. She might at first feel like it is a good excuse to explain her cheating behavior. While there is no such thing as a valid excuse for cheating... Getting her to admit specific problems she has with your relationship will help you both meet an agreement.

I hope I was helpful, I may have rambled some. Sorry!

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Old 08-14-2013, 04:46 PM
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We split up In December of last year. Thank God it's over. She is now with her last affair partner. The comment about nostalgia and remembering how things were was exact. It's all behind me now and life has been amazingly drama free. My mind isn't 100% back to normal yet but it's really close. Life moves forward
Good! Reading through this thread, it is easy to see from the outside that she was addicted to the lying and drama of cheating, and that the relationship needed to end. Of course, you had to get to the point of seeing it yourself. Glad to read that it's behind you now and you've moved on.

Yes, move forward - don't look back!
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