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Old 11-15-2013, 06:51 PM
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We address broken boundaries as cheating with grave consequences such as "goodbye".

We don't have punishments.
The thing with breaking boundaries is-it is breaking trust. Period.
If you destroy trust-you destroy the relationship.

ALWAYS ALWAYS better to re-negotiate.
NEVER NEVER break agreed to limits.
Period.
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Old 11-15-2013, 07:09 PM
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I think the difference between breaking a rule, and not, is a phone call.

"Hey, we had agreed to X, but now I want to do Y, is that okay?"

It's really no different than, "We had agreed to a budget of $10 for lunch per day, but today I felt like having a steak, can I spend $25 instead?"

Then there is the negotiating; "I'll cook tonight and bring in leftovers tomorrow to cover the difference, and I'll make your favorite chili too."

Or, "Okay, I guess I'll just skip the steak if we can't afford it this week."
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Old 11-15-2013, 07:31 PM
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I'm really against the idea of keeping score....but if you consistently break trust...it'll damage the relationship. Maybe even end it.

I also don't like having too many rules. Rules are usually made to be broken I prefer having standards, as in, We believe in regular communication with all partners. What that means may change over time and vary from person to person.
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Old 11-16-2013, 02:54 AM
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Don't punish rules broken. That is not good karma. Either it was too much for you and you end the relationship, and you forgive and work throgh it together.

There are phones. If you are uncertain, call or text and ask. If you are still uncertain, don't do it. Limit your drinking at parties, since more than a couple of drinks makes for bad decition making and possably rules broken. If you mess up, apopologigize and allow the other person to feel hurt for some time, and work on re-building the trust. Use a condom. Also, me and my husband has a "try not to fuck them in the same night as you meet them"-rule, but again: there are phones.
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:43 AM
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You have to be honest about why the rule was broken and see what it means for the future. If the rule was no kissing, and you kissed, perhaps you need to kiss other people and a rule forbidding it makes you unhappy.
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:13 AM
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"Do not create agreements for expectations of behavior you are not willing/able to keep. And if over time an agreement no longer fits, ask to renegotiate it FIRST. "

That seems the easiest and most polite.

The details of how people want to be together in whatever open relationship model they are practicing is going to vary.

http://openingup.net/resources/free-...om-opening-up/

has some sheets if you need something to look at to help "calibrate" and get on the same page so misunderstandings are minimized.

If you and your partner choose to participate in polyship with X agreements in place and once of you breaks them? And conflict resolution doesn't work out? The simplest consequence is you both stop participating in polyship.

Whether than means you "close" or "break up" is on both to discern. Either party can withdraw their willingness to participate. Nobody is going to make them participate against their will!

People could have second chances, and some skills take longer to learn and I'm willing to support them while they are trying. But there's a point where it becomes "no effort being made" here and gets ridiculous. You don't get 5 million "second chances" just to coast. YKWIM?

For myself? I like (3 strikes you are out.) Lying to me is a 1 strike because if I can't trust your word, all communication about all else is broken. If there's a problem that's becoming chronic and there is NO reasonable effort being made at all? It's just lip service?

On the clock then -- for 3 strikes you are out. If I have to bring it to your attention 3 times you are not serious. That (3 strikes) limit helps prevent me from allowing soft feelings for the person tempt me to put up with shenanigans longer than needed.

It's good you are talking this out. What the dealbreakers are and how you want to be together and how you want to be as exes if that ever comes to pass. Then there too you know what behavior to expect from YOURSELF as well as the other person, and can come to agreement on that. Then you can hold each other accountable to your agreements and play ball -- hopefully well!

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Old 11-16-2013, 06:42 PM
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if the boundaries aren't deal-breakers in and of themselves, you're setting yourselves up for some really unattractive rules-lawyering by setting a punishment for breaking the rule in advance. Firstly, you're planning to have your rules broken, which is never a good baseline to start from.

And secondly, you're inviting thought patterns like "Well, I really want to do X with Y tonight, but it breaks the rules. But if I break the rules, I know that Z is going to be the punishment, and yeah... I guess it's worth putting up with that punishment to get my way right now." That sort of transactional thinking can really mess up a relationship. Plus, it doesn't say anything good about the strength behind your rules or your mutual understanding and agreement about why they're there in the first place.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:46 PM
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Have you done a search? If you would like to get a large cross-section of opinions, you could check out some of the many previous threads on how to establish boundaries or rules in a poly or open relationship. Some of these threads are real goodies, with lots of viewpoints, excellent strategies, and information. Just use the Advanced Search function, or Tag Search, for words like "boundaries" or "rules."
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