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Old 05-08-2014, 07:12 PM
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Default Why is spirituality and polyamory linked?

I've developed a neurodiversity quiz for about 10 years, and finally got it published last year. However, in the new version (which has polyamory as one of the questions), it seems like polyamory is closely linked to private relgious beliefs, which really is not expected.

Anybody have a good guess why polyamory and private religous beliefs are linked? What do they have in common?
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:57 PM
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I guess I fully don't understand the question. Is your quiz showing you data that people in poly relationships or who identify as poly are also in certain religions?

It has been my experience the pagan spiritual paths of many different varieties often intersect with poly. But it has also been my experience that spirituality and poly are two axis that may cross but do not necessarily do so.
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Old 05-09-2014, 01:19 AM
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How do you define "private" religious beliefs? And why did you not expect to find religious or "spiritual" people involved in polyamory? Polyamory is a practice that many types of people engage in - did you think there is only a certain kind of non-religious or non-spiritual person who would be attracted to living polyamorously?
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:21 AM
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How do you define "private" religious beliefs? And why did you not expect to find religious or "spiritual" people involved in polyamory? Polyamory is a practice that many types of people engage in - did you think there is only a certain kind of non-religious or non-spiritual person who would be attracted to living polyamorously?
I actually don't define it, but rather leave it up to participants to define. However, I know this question is related to other spiritual issues as well.

The connection is not that all polyamory people have this, just that it is more common.
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Old 05-09-2014, 07:09 PM
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Which religions are popping up in the survey? Perhaps there's a common thread to them. Or perhaps in the next version of the survey you can expand the question to try to tap something common in there.

For example,
  • atheism
  • deism
  • theism
  • pantheism
  • panentheism
  • monotheist vs multi-god systems

and so on.

Could also try to get a sense of the individual person's faith development at the time of taking the survey regardless of the particular path they happen to follow.

Taking a stab in the dark? Since polyshipping is very DIY? I'd guess they are at least moving into stage 4 or AT stage 4. Because 4's are more ready to "diy" than stage 3 in their spiritual/faith beliefs. So it wouldn't be surprising to me to learn they are ready to DIY in other areas of belief -- like what they believe about loving/love styles, etc and what they might want for themselves there too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fowler%...th_development
http://www.usefulcharts.com/psycholo...-of-faith.html

I don't know how you would design the questions so they aren't "leading" but... just some ideas for things to try to measure in the surveying.

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Old 05-09-2014, 07:26 PM
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I actually don't define it, but rather leave it up to participants to define. However, I know this question is related to other spiritual issues as well.
I wasn't asking you about your study. I asked you what you mean by "private religious beliefs" because you mentioned it and asked us why there is a connection. If you want answers on a topic or perspective, it is generally more helpful to let people know how you define that what you're asking about so that people aren't answering about something different.

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The connection is not that all polyamory people have this . . .
Well, obviously. Many, like myself, are agnostic or atheist.

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. . . it is more common.
More common than what?

I don't know anything about your study, but it seems to me that you need to hone your skills in communicating clearly.
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I imagine that most people in general have spiritual beliefs that are important to them. And I imagine that most polyamorists share that general tendency. So, a polyamorist will often want to know how their polyamorous choices can be made in harmony with their spiritual beliefs. As far as I know, that's the link between spirituality and polyamory.
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I imagine that most people in general have spiritual beliefs that are important to them.
Hmmm. I don't think that should ever be an automatic assumption.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:57 AM
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Of the four people in this household. 3 of us don't have or see any ties in spirituality to poly. (1 atheist, 2 agnostics) I would also say a large percentage of poly people I know are atheist. The rest would be pagan or Christian.

So I think my first reaction to your question is.. they aren't.
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Hmmm. I don't think that should ever be an automatic assumption.
I have to agree with nycindie here...you have to be careful with assumptions. Sorry, I don't have references on hand, but I have noticed that you have to be very aware of how studies that look at the "spiritual beliefs" of populations are constructed. "Most" to me implies a significant majority - high 90s. I'd buy that "a majority of people" (i.e. more than 50%) might have spiritual beliefs that are important to them...but "most"? May depend on the culture (and the penalties for going against the grain).

When I have looked at studies in the past, the questions have seemed very biased. Along the lines of, "Which of the following religions do you most strongly identify with: list". One of the answers may be agnostic/atheist/none - but then, when you dig a little deeper, you find that many of the people that ID'd as "Christian" don't have a particularly STRONG identification with it - just that it best matches what they know. They were raised Christian, believe in "God", but don't feel that it is an especially important aspect of their lives, don't go to church, etc.

I attended a Christian church for the first 18 years of my life - every Sunday - but I wouldn't say I was "raised" Christian, since in my family questioning was encouraged rather than discouraged. I am drawn to the ideas presented in writings on "secular Buddhism" (which one could argue is a "philosopy" rather than a "religion"). If given the option I would choose atheist/agnostic/none (my preference is to ID as "a little a agnostic"). But, in actuality, none of these identifications is particularly important to me...merely a slight preference...
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