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Old 09-18-2013, 06:14 AM
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If I may ask, do you mean things like zoos, or are you also against people caring for cats, dogs, etc? Or are you fine with people having pets provided they're not caged?

For instance, I currently have 3 cats. However they come and go as they please as we have several pet doors. One of them doesn't really go out ever, another one I can spend several weeks without seeing. I don't consider them trapped or caged, but I do know that some people oppose the idea of pets to begin with, and I'm curious whether it is what you mean.

At least I am assuming you're talking about non-humans right now. Usually, using quotation marks around the word "pet" in a BDSM thread means human submissives, but it seems that's not what you mean, or am I misunderstanding you?
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:35 AM
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If I may ask, do you mean things like zoos, or are you also against people caring for cats, dogs, etc? Or are you fine with people having pets provided they're not caged?

For instance, I currently have 3 cats. However they come and go as they please as we have several pet doors. One of them doesn't really go out ever, another one I can spend several weeks without seeing. I don't consider them trapped or caged, but I do know that some people oppose the idea of pets to begin with, and I'm curious whether it is what you mean.

At least I am assuming you're talking about non-humans right now. Usually, using quotation marks around the word "pet" in a BDSM thread means human submissives, but it seems that's not what you mean, or am I misunderstanding you?
I think the relationship you have with your cats is the most wonderful relationship I have yet to hear anyone practice with the concept of "pets" in relation to Humans.~ I think every single Human and non-relationship should be exactly what you have with your pets.~

Yes, I dislike Zoos.~

If I were to ever form a bond of friendship with another creature who is not Human, I would treasure that friendship.~ I treat all creatures as equals to myself and so I always try to think from their perspective Human or not.~

I've always dreamed of one day having a flying squirrel fly into my boat-house and we form a friendship.~ The flying squirrel would come and go as it pleases, I am not and would not be its' or anyone's "master" so I have no right to command them, and I would never profess "ownership" of such a wonderful creature as that would infer that I am somehow its' "master" and I am no one's master.~

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Old 09-18-2013, 12:47 PM
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This is entirely from your own perspective as it is debatable and ultimately no one really knows if compassion is intrinsic to all creatures or even just Humanity.~
But that's getting off-topic.~
Yes, whether or not creatures other than humans have the ability to feel compassion is both debatable and off topic. No idea why you want to take the conversation there.

A common trait of sociopathy, or antisocial personality disorder, is lacking the ability to empathize with the pain or feelings of others. Being able to watch someone get abducted into sex slavery, beaten and raped right before ones eyes and not feel any compassion is, in fact, a neurological disorder.
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:42 PM
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This is entirely from your own perspective as it is debatable and ultimately no one really knows if compassion is intrinsic to all creatures or even just Humanity.~
But that's getting off-topic.~
Sorry to drag things off topic further but I think it is important to point out that it is no longer debatable if non-humans are capable of compassion and empathy. People who live closely with animals have been reporting this for years and more recent studies have backed up these anecdotes.

Saying that there is still some debate to be had on the matter is a bit like saying that there is still some debate to be had on the matter of whether or not the earth is flat, IMO.

Oh - ref in case anybody is interested. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-b...b_1138675.html

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Old 09-18-2013, 01:53 PM
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Sorry to drag things off topic further but I think it is important to point out that it is no longer debatable if non-humans are capable of compassion and empathy.
It was so far outside the realm of the topic that I didn't do any research on it. Thanks for the legwork.
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Old 09-18-2013, 03:52 PM
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Yes, whether or not creatures other than humans have the ability to feel compassion is both debatable and off topic. No idea why you want to take the conversation there.

A common trait of sociopathy, or antisocial personality disorder, is lacking the ability to empathize with the pain or feelings of others. Being able to watch someone get abducted into sex slavery, beaten and raped right before ones eyes and not feel any compassion is, in fact, a neurological disorder.
Nope that's just an opinion.~

Demanding the same feelings from all Humans is simply ridiculous.~

I am not going to debate this.~
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:08 PM
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I thought this thread was supposed to be a place for people who are into, interested in, or curious about BDSM to discuss it and how it works in their lives, ask questions, share experiences, etc. It now seems to have veered very far off-track!
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I thought this thread was supposed to be a place for people who are into, interested in, or curious about BDSM to discuss it and how it works in their lives, ask questions, share experiences, etc. It now seems to have veered very far off-track!
Complete and annoying thread derail, indeed.
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:46 PM
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Complete and annoying thread derail, indeed.
Yah, sorry guys. I saw the "non-consensual" stuff and wanted to chime in because I thought it should be clarified. I didn't realize it was going to drift out to whether or not animals can feel compassion...
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Old 09-18-2013, 08:25 PM
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Yah, sorry guys. I saw the "non-consensual" stuff and wanted to chime in because I thought it should be clarified. I didn't realize it was going to drift out to whether or not animals can feel compassion...
That's ok, as long as we can stay on-topic.~

Question, I have seen some full-bodysuits of latex being used during a porno and I thought it was very hot or sexy:

how safe is actually doing that for most people and do you need training for that sort of thing?~
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