MusicalRose
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I don't think it is really transphobic. He didn't seem to be discriminating, it just wasn't in his taste. I prefer androgynous people, but that doesn't make me cisphobic.
Would he date a femme post op transwoman or would he puke and beat her up if he found out she was trans after he'd fucked her?
Now in terms of this discussion, I'm an authentiholic, I'm addicted to being authentic & to authentic people, everything else is open for discussion.
"Very much womanly." What does that even mean? An extremely femme girly girl? That defines my gf.
Or does he just mean, "Has a pussy?" Would he date a femme post op transwoman or would he puke and beat her up if he found out she was trans after he'd fucked her?
sigh...
I use queer, pansexual and bisexual in no particular order to describe myself to others. Not because they are interchangeable - they're not - but because they are all true in describing a part of me. Those words get the information across that I'm not straight, nor totally 'gay' either, and that gender is a broad and varied thing. And that is what I want labels to do - give a piece of information about me to someone else.
"Has a pussy" is certainly one criteria that some people might use in their personal definition of "girlie girl". Dude finds quite a wide variety of women sexually appealing (many, many more than I do - like practically all of them). He used to include "women who were BORN women" as one of his only criteria.
I then asked him about people with "testicular feminization syndrome" (or "androgen insensitivity syndrome") - people with an XY genotype who are phenotypically female...showed him pictures and got him all turned around.
Having said this...I don't see him beating anyone up. I do think that being a post-op transwoman might be something important that someone might want to disclose about themselves before things got to the "fucking" stage (kinda like being poly) if you plan on trying for any long-term relationship type thing, especially as that is the sort of thing that might be "discovered" during said "fucking" (a little anal play and..."oh, hey, there's a prostate in here").
That's kind of transphobic, actually.
My gf is transgender, but very much a woman. More femme than I am (I'm cisgendered, but fall somewhere in between butch and femme). Despite being pre-op, she is "very much womanly," and so are most transwomen I know.
I actually love androgyny and sometimes wish my gf wasn't quite so much of a woman! heh
I saw no part of this statement saying "their sex and gender have to match". Only that they need to a) have a gender and b) be extremes of their gender.
No, JaneQ said Dude said the woman had to have been born a woman. But that that means with a vagina. It's a tricky concept but yet still quite disrespectful to transpeople.
I am not just concerned with my gf here, but with all transgender, intersexed and genderfluid people. Heck, I'm genderqueer myself. The fact that so many are confused by the concepts I am talking of here shows an area of ignorance I am trying to throw some light on. Our culture supports the idea that it's perfectly natural to be disgusted by transpersons (no matter how femme the woman is or how butch the man is), much less attracted to them.
I'm curious what your thoughts are about individuals who are SPECIFICALLY attracted TO androgynous/gender-queer/transpeople. Would that be considered disrespectful or "phobic" or "anti" in any way?
I'm curious what your thoughts are about individuals who are SPECIFICALLY attracted TO androgynous/gender-queer/transpeople. Would that be considered disrespectful or "phobic" or "anti" in any way?