Is masturbation sex?

Is masturbation sex?

  • I'm a woman and I vote yes

    Votes: 28 24.1%
  • I'm a woman and I vote no

    Votes: 28 24.1%
  • I'm a man and I voted yes

    Votes: 16 13.8%
  • I'm a man and I vote no

    Votes: 25 21.6%
  • I'm gender-variant and I vote yes

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • I'm gender-variant and I vote no

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Magical brownies

    Votes: 17 14.7%

  • Total voters
    116
  • Poll closed .
I tie sex and intimacy. Sex doesn't feel good for me unless I know or am reasonably sure I'm brining pleasure to my partner. I like it vice versa too, knowing my partner is echoing and vibing off of my own pleasure.

It needs intimacy, trust, concern, awareness of the physical and emotional cues.

So that said...

Yes, masturbation is sex.

"Masturbation is simply sex with someone I really, really love." --Woody Allen
 
I say no because sex involves two or more. Masturbation is just masturbation. while it is sexual, you're still doing it alone.

I also don't officially count oral sex as sex. When asked how many people I've had sex with I do not count the people in which oral sex was as far as it ever went.

I guess to me, sex means intercourse.

Interesting. When I think back to all the sexual partners I have had, I count the ones I had intercourse with. (I didn't count kissing and fondling/mutual masturbation, or the list would've been much longer.) Finally a few months ago, I realized I was being quite remiss! I had a menage a trois with a (previously platonic) girl friend of mine and her boyfriend when I was a 19 year old lass. Suddenly I realized I had only been counting her boyfriend as someone I had sex with, although I did perform oral sex on my girl friend! I brought her to orgasm several times. How sexist of me. Of course, I need to count her as a notch on my bedpost as well.

Many gay men and lesbian women (bisexuals/pansexuals) do not engage in penetrative sex of the anus or vagina. Their sexual relations are comprised of oral sex, digital manipulation, or frottage. Of course, 2 women can't perform intercourse unless a dildo is used. Does this mean they aren't having sex with their partners? Of course not.
 
Frottage is non-penetrative penis to penis rubbing. Or "dry humping" between 2 partners of any gender.

Apparently vulva to vulva rubbing is called tribadism. I've heard it called scissoring.

More on non-penetrative sex here on wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-penetrative_sex
 
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Poor str8s. :rolleyes: ;)
 
Interesting. When I think back to all the sexual partners I have had, I count the ones I had intercourse with. (I didn't count kissing and fondling/mutual masturbation, or the list would've been much longer.) Finally a few months ago, I realized I was being quite remiss! I had a menage a trois with a (previously platonic) girl friend of mine and her boyfriend when I was a 19 year old lass. Suddenly I realized I had only been counting her boyfriend as someone I had sex with, although I did perform oral sex on my girl friend! I brought her to orgasm several times. How sexist of me. Of course, I need to count her as a notch on my bedpost as well.

Many gay men and lesbian women (bisexuals/pansexuals) do not engage in penetrative sex of the anus or vagina. Their sexual relations are comprised of oral sex, digital manipulation, or frottage. Of course, 2 women can't perform intercourse unless a dildo is used. Does this mean they aren't having sex with their partners? Of course not.

That is a very good point.
So, what do you consider losing your virginity? Can a straight girl lose her virginity before she has intercourse just because she performed and received oral sex? ... That changes my whole concept of virginity. It also confuses the concept of virginity a little. At what point is it sex and at what point is it not quite sex?
This also brings me to another conclusion, one that frustrates me a tad bit... Several years ago I lost count of how many people I'd had intercourse with, and recently I attempted to make a list. I know I am forgetting people, and as it is I already don't know about 20% of the first names of the people I have listed.. Yikes! It makes me feel a little dirty, but then again I did enjoy myself and stayed clean. But if my definition of what constitutes having sex changes, then that means I need to add a whole bunch more people to that list, if I can remember them. There will probably be more names I don't remember.
 
Don't knock it til you've tried it.


Anotherbo ;)
And to drive that home, I would LOVE to try double vaginal penetration where I am on my back, my wife is laying on top of me facing me, and our third is on top of her. He and I are both penetrating her vagina, and when he pushes in and out, his penis rubs on mine....Don't want to try it because of the sword crossing.....but because of the potential for HER to orgasm harder.
 
And to drive that home, I would LOVE to try double vaginal penetration where I am on my back, my wife is laying on top of me facing me, and our third is on top of her. He and I are both penetrating her vagina, and when he pushes in and out, his penis rubs on mine....Don't want to try it because of the sword crossing.....but because of the potential for HER to orgasm harder.

Double vag is very different than two dudes just rubbing penises together ;)
 
That is definatly true Ari....Definatly true.
 
Poor str8s. :rolleyes: ;)

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And to drive that home, I would LOVE to try double vaginal penetration where I am on my back, my wife is laying on top of me facing me, and our third is on top of her. He and I are both penetrating her vagina, and when he pushes in and out, his penis rubs on mine....Don't want to try it because of the sword crossing.....but because of the potential for HER to orgasm harder.

Still on my "to-do" list.
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Come on over some time then. Bring a man with you. ;) LOL
 
That is a very good point.
So, what do you consider losing your virginity? Can a straight girl lose her virginity before she has intercourse just because she performed and received oral sex? ...

Well, technically a woman loses her virginity when the hymen is broken. But that can happen before her first intercourse, from penetration with a few fingers, or a toy. I think most people consider the virginity of a man or a woman to be lost when first being penetrated or penetrating...



That changes my whole concept of virginity. It also confuses the concept of virginity a little. At what point is it sex and at what point is it not quite sex?

Well, that's the topic of this thread. Seems like it's a matter of opinion. Pres Clinton seemed to think oral sex didnt count as sex. :rolleyes:
 
Lots of interesting takes on what is sex.

But thinking further on this, I feel there is something very unique about a penis penetrating a vagina. It just has a special place in my heart!

Maybe that's because almost all babies start this way.


Anotherbo :)


P.S. Bah, TL4everu2 and foxflame88! I'd offer to join you, but Florida and Alabama are just too damn far from Alaska. :p
 
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I'm not sure... It's sexual, definitely, but I wouldn't say it's having sex... For me, "having sex" or "making love" implies "with". I feel if masturbation is having sex, then moving your tongue in your mouth is kissing, know what I mean?
For me, it takes two or more for sex. I would consider it having sex if done while someone is watching you, whether they're doing it too or not.

I'm not voting because I would say it's sexual (just like sex dreams are), but it's not having sex. However, does being sexual without it being "having sex" still count as sex? I'm not sure if I'm making sense here by differentiating "having sex" and just "sex", but I'm just not sure if they're quite the same thing.
 
This is a very interesting thread. I wish there were more responses. I really think it is a very odd topic. Where does sex begin? I've known folks who actually believe sucking cock is not sex. Anal penetration by a penis is not sex. Handjobs are not sex. Giving oneself a handjob is not sex. Etc.



If I look at porn and get turned on, is that betrayal? If I fuck someone else but think about you the entire time, dear, is that commitment? :)

Immaterial
If people have orgasm together it can mean more or less and feel great or mediocre depending on our momentary situation. Same if one is alone - any number of circumstances make it special, say, while thinking of an absent second party. I think sex involves being friendly and another party in some way. Technically flying solo should be 'sex.'
 
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