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View Poll Results: Is there any crossover between Sex work, Swinging and Polyamory?
Yes, there is some crossover between all 3 categories 9 40.91%
There is only crossover between sex work and swinging 2 9.09%
There is only crossover between sex work and polyamory 0 0%
Sex work stands alone; there is no crossover 11 50.00%
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:20 PM
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Wait a second there; why does having a traditional relationship on the side alter whether or not they're monogamous.
Typo on my part. I meant to say, if they DO have a traditional relationship and do sex work, they have more than one partner, while if they only do sex work, they potentially have a single partner, or they have several partner but no "serious" one.

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In the latter case, people might argue that it doesn't fall under polyamory, swinging or open relationships because none of the sexual relations fall under the common definition.
The thing is, being monogamous doesn't mean that you're serious with your partner. This applies with the partners of polyamorous people to some extent (at the very least, it applies to some people who identify as polyamorous; poly people may differ as to whether a casual sexual relationship would constitute a "real" relationship) and it applies even more (in my view) in the case of swingers, many of whom make it a point to not have serious relationships with anyone but their primary (I know that this isn't exclusively so, however).. and it seems that not -every- swinger has a primary. I have heard that some sex workers have posed as swingers for clients, perhaps so that clients could visit swing clubs, some of which have a policy that single men can't go.

Originally Posted by Tonberry View Post
I guess I got tangled up and started typing one sentence and finished with another one. My apologies.
Np, you may have noticed I edit a lot, it's to fix mistakes like this :-).

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and there might be other options. I think with polyamory and swinging, the only two criteria that directly affect polyamory are the second and third (as in, how many partners, and is the relationship closed or open).

So I don't deny the overlap but I don't think it's relevant to polyamory or swinging as a whole, or to polyamory or swinging exclusively.
You start off with polyamory and swinging, then single it down to polyamory. Can you explain this a bit more?
Here, I rephrased my sentence and forgot to fix it. I meant for it to apply to both, the singling down was accidental and due to changing my sentence and accidentally leaving some of the old one behind.
Alright. Well, I'd like to say that I think that the overlap is very relevant. As I've said in the past, prostitution has been around a lot longer then the term "polyamory" and while I agree that most of the time, the relationship between a client and a sex worker isn't what most would call a polyamorous relationship, there can be exceptions. I think I'll finish off by requoting a section from former sex worker Maggie McNiel's article Not for Everybody:

One of the central goals of this blog is to help people realize that prostitution is [a] completely natural female behavior; it actually predates marriage in human development and similar behaviors appear even in non-primate species. Most women will not hesitate to use their “erotic capital” (as Catherine Hakim calls it) to get ahead, and many have no qualms about openly using sex for material gain. About 10% of all women have directly taken money for sex at least once, and about 1% have actually worked as prostitutes at some time in their lives. As George Bataille put it, “Not every woman is a prostitute, but prostitution is the natural apotheosis of the feminine attitude”; in other words, full-time professional prostitution occupies one end of a whole spectrum of female behaviors on which it is impossible to draw a line separating the whore from the non-whore.

I personally strongly dislike the term "whore". I'm not even comfortable with "slut". I know that some women have decided to try to retake the word slut, but I haven't seen much an effort to do so with whore.. like sex at dawn, I prefer the word promiscuous, mainly because of the definition it used to have; essentially, pro mixing. Variety is the spice of life type thing. I'm for it, and there's also no denying that in today's society, most people can't live without having money to buy things they need, so I think it's understandable why some may find that the best way of acquiring it is by exchanging certain services for it.

Last edited by Scott; 03-19-2012 at 09:22 PM.
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