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Old 05-19-2011, 04:57 PM
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stepford wives is another favorite of mine, (the newer version), perfect movie. the actors aren't favorites of mine but i love the film. maybe because i hate the whole june cleaver perfect housewife mentality
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wow there are some great movies here and I agree with a lot of them some of mine are
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All of the Harry Potter movies except the second one
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I have never seen one that was perfect.
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Old 05-20-2011, 07:24 AM
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Here's the official trailer made after the film was restored. Note the nudity!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSExdX0tds4
Cool stuff. I will have to check it out one day.

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wow there are some great movies here and I agree with a lot of them some of mine are
Lord of the Rings
Stardust
All of the Harry Potter movies except the second one
Ah! How could I forget Lord Of The Rings? I would love to have all the full director's cut versions and sit and watch all 3 in a row. That would be a great night. =P

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I have never seen one that was perfect.
There's always one who has to make it awkward. ;D Haha. But I guess everyone has a different view on what is perfect to them. There are a lot of films I wouldn't change anything about though.
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Ah! How could I forget Lord Of The Rings? I would love to have all the full director's cut versions and sit and watch all 3 in a row. That would be a great night. =P

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I was off sick one day and did just that...talk about feeling like you are in an alternate reality by the end of the day
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There's always one who has to make it awkward. ;D Haha. But I guess everyone has a different view on what is perfect to them. There are a lot of films I wouldn't change anything about though.
Comes from a core disbelief in perfection. People hate working for me because I don't believe in handing out perfect scores during reviews.

If I were to pick one thing that was close. It would be lord of the rings. But.. but.. it can never be perfect as it was flawed in some of its story telling. It strayed from the book (which it had to do due to the size of the books) and added some extra goopy romance. All in all, it was pretty close..
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If I were to pick one thing that was close. It would be lord of the rings. But.. but.. it can never be perfect as it was flawed in some of its story telling. It strayed from the book (which it had to do due to the size of the books) and added some extra goopy romance. All in all, it was pretty close..
It's a mistake to judge how good a film is by whether or not it was faithful to the original material from which it was adapted. Film is a visual medium. Books require imagination. A screen adaptation usually MUST stray in order to be tell the story well on the screen, and for the pacing to keep the viewer's interest. You simply cannot include every detail of a long book in a film script. Adaptations are very tricky for even the most experienced screenwriter. Of course, diehard fans of a book always feel like a film should be exactly like the book, and if it isn't, it's a travesty (case in point - the absolute rage there was over the ending to My Sister's Keeper!). But a good director knows that is impossible to do. What they try to do is evoke the right tone or emotional atmosphere of whatever book is being adapted.
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I was off sick one day and did just that...talk about feeling like you are in an alternate reality by the end of the day
That's what I love about films and gaming too. Just feeling like you're somewhere else. You stop thinking about life and put yourself into the action on screen.

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Comes from a core disbelief in perfection. People hate working for me because I don't believe in handing out perfect scores during reviews.

If I were to pick one thing that was close. It would be lord of the rings. But.. but.. it can never be perfect as it was flawed in some of its story telling. It strayed from the book (which it had to do due to the size of the books) and added some extra goopy romance. All in all, it was pretty close..
It depends what perfection means to you. No human being is perfect, but isn't that what makes us perfectly human? As far as I've been told [because I haven't read the books and don't plan to] is that the films were actually better, because they got rid of all the pointless nonsense from the books. That added with 3 hours or so length for each film, they were able to put a lot of the stuff that really was relevant into it.

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It's a mistake to judge how good a film is by whether or not it was faithful to the original material from which it was adapted. Film is a visual medium. Books require imagination. A screen adaptation usually MUST stray in order to be tell the story well on the screen, and for the pacing to keep the viewer's interest. You simply cannot include every detail of a long book in a film script. Adaptations are very tricky for even the most experienced screenwriter. Of course, diehard fans of a book always feel like a film should be exactly like the book, and if it isn't, it's a travesty (case in point - the absolute rage there was over the ending to My Sister's Keeper!). But a good director knows that is impossible to do. What they try to do is evoke the right tone or emotional atmosphere of whatever book is being adapted.
Exactly a great point. A film is not like a book and so tells the story differently either way. I get annoyed when people have to compare to a book and can't just enjoy a film for what it is as a film. It's times like that, I'm glad I don't read fiction. I love to see it all on screen.

I haven't seen My Sister's Keeper, so that'll be a good one for me to watch. I've heard it's quite good.
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Old 05-21-2011, 03:27 PM
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It's a mistake to judge how good a film is by whether or not it was faithful to the original material from which it was adapted. Film is a visual medium. Books require imagination. A screen adaptation usually MUST stray in order to be tell the story well on the screen, and for the pacing to keep the viewer's interest. You simply cannot include every detail of a long book in a film script. Adaptations are very tricky for even the most experienced screenwriter. Of course, diehard fans of a book always feel like a film should be exactly like the book, and if it isn't, it's a travesty (case in point - the absolute rage there was over the ending to My Sister's Keeper!). But a good director knows that is impossible to do. What they try to do is evoke the right tone or emotional atmosphere of whatever book is being adapted.

... yep, I do realize that. I never expected the movie to match the book.

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It depends what perfection means to you. No human being is perfect, but isn't that what makes us perfectly human? As far as I've been told [because I haven't read the books and don't plan to] is that the films were actually better, because they got rid of all the pointless nonsense from the books. That added with 3 hours or so length for each film, they were able to put a lot of the stuff that really was relevant into it.
I didn't realize perfection could be interpreted. Its.. well.. perfect. There isn't an in between. It either is, or isn't. Striving for perfection pushes everything we do.. it allows for progress. To achieve perfection creates an immediate ceiling on achievement. Thats why I don't believe anything is perfect.

JRR Tolkien's LOTR is pretty much the bible of fantasy. He defined every creature used in almost every fantasy novel since. And others he stole from previous mythology. He combined, accumulated and created a written work that could have (and in some ways actually is) been considered untouchable. (although some of his other work really is good for a bedtime story.. holy yawners batman)

Thank god Robert Jordan didn't believe in perfection. He took that concept and expanded on it. Building a different world, with more details and deranged the creatures even further. I can read through Robert Jordan and find a lot of little parallels, robert jordan didn't have many creative thoughts, but his books are on par with JRR Tolkiens.

Anyways, I am babbling. I don't believe in perfection because it would limit what we do. Perfection is not a good thing. Trying to achieve perfection is its own motivation. And in many ways, is the only motivation.

Ok as I sit here I am really trying to think of some sci fi I would consider incredible. I spend a lot of time watching both genres but can't think of a sci fi series that blew my socks off like Tolkien or Jordan's books. I am actually a Matrix fan, all 3.. go ahead try and take my geek card.. In its own way it was nearly perfect.. Starwars and star trek (yepper I love both) are both nearly perfect in their own way.. I find myself with sci fi, immediately comparing movies to the god fathers of sci fi. As a 40's to 60's fan of sci fi short stories and movies, its hard to compare the movies of today to the absolute creative juices used back then. I crave science fiction of that level. Imagine toasters being brand new in your home, and having the gaul to write about robotics and sentience.

ok thats way too much babbling. I might have to do some googling for sci fi movies that rocks my socks.. haha
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Exactly a great point. A film is not like a book and so tells the story differently either way. I get annoyed when people have to compare to a book and can't just enjoy a film for what it is as a film. It's times like that, I'm glad I don't read fiction. I love to see it all on screen.
You are missing out. .. The worlds weaved in a good story are absolutely untouchable.

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It depends what perfection means to you. No human being is perfect, but isn't that what makes us perfectly human? As far as I've been told [because I haven't read the books and don't plan to] is that the films were actually better, because they got rid of all the pointless nonsense from the books. That added with 3 hours or so length for each film, they were able to put a lot of the stuff that really was relevant into it.
3 points in here. I answered the question on perfection. You are absolutely right, humans aren't perfect, that doesn't make them perfect. Hell even in genetics we are all mutating, so even mother nature/god/bigbang/etc doesn't believe we are perfect.

Whoever said the films are better.. are wrong. .. a lot of the "nonsense" is key to character creation and building a very detailed world. You have to dislike fantasy to imply that the books weren't as good. The movies were easier.. not better.

I am not comparing the books to the movies. I fully understand there is a difference between the two and that they have to be different. And please don't get me wrong. The movies did an AMAZING job recreating the story and I crave to see the hobbit when it comes out. In many ways they changed sub plots, changing some of those key stories left out. Changing many of the sub plots. The main plot was left intact and was incredible.
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