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Old 08-18-2009, 06:16 PM
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Redsirenn,

It's interesting that climate zones are shifting so fast that we should probably expect major disruption of forest ecosystems -- probably often as massive die-offs of forest trees. Trees can't lift up their roots (as legs) and walk North or to higher elevations. Smaller plants, of course, can often migrate readily. But some animals are going to have a tough time migrating for various reasons, many related to human artifice such as highways.

Are you a botanist?
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Yes I am a botanist.
It is true that the climate is changing so rapidly that living things will have a hard time to adjust. The thing is, that the composition of our landscapes has been different in the past as well - the difference is the rate of change. That is, the climate is shifting and changing so fast, that it may happen too quickly for things to evolve into new niches and to develop new interactions with other organisms... not to mention the changing phenology of many living things. And, like you said how we have altered the landscape with impermeable boundaries such as roads, development, etc.

Carbon dioxide is responsible for most of the warming of the atmosphere, and we cannot remove what has already been deposited into it. We can, however, stop putting more in, and prevent truly disastrous changes from happening to future generations of humanity. This is the gist of the concept of living sustainably - not wasting, using what you need to live, not living to use. You know, the whole "reduce, reuse, recycle"... and then purchase recycled products to complete the cycle..
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Old 08-18-2009, 07:43 PM
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This is the gist of the concept of living sustainably - not wasting, using what you need to live, not living to use. You know, the whole "reduce, reuse, recycle"... and then purchase recycled products to complete the cycle..
I'm a serious amateur (soon to be professional) human ecologist and ecological designer, and am writing a book addressing the need for government land use regulation (and building code) changes in order to facilitate the creation or retrofitting of sustainable communities (e.g., ecovillages, etc.), so the whole sustainability question is core in my life.

My book, hopefully, will be useful to potential sustainable community builders (especially ecovillage folks) and advocates as a sort of "how to" handbook in dealing with government and bureaucracy.
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Whatever... Maybe we should ask Barry for some insight about this.(c).
Ouch! Should I be offended? I have had some backpacking experience though. All of the Florida trail, The Big Cypress Swamp and some of the Everglades. My one time goal was to do the Appalachian from end to end, but that goal was lost in the shuffle of everyday life. The main things to consider even on a short trip is; your feet, it doesn't take long to work up blisters, especially with new boots, body temperature, it is not uncommon to become overheated in the day or hypothermic at night. Common sense is the course of action here. And last but not least, and the one I was always guilty of, don't pack more than you need. It is easy to justify non-essentials.
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What, no waffle irons?!
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What, no waffle irons?!
Sigh.......I'm afraid not, and you'll have to leave the WOK at home too.
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haha. This is awesome.
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... I study rare plants and the impact climate change will have on them. I am working on developing better computer models to predict where species will go as a result of climate change.
Fantastic!!!
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Bummer.

Bad weather forecast because of the latest hurricane so Steve is coming home for tonight (he's at the campsite with the trailer already - it's only 20 minutes' drive from where we live). They're talking about wind and trees falling down and inches of rain, so we'll try again tomorrow if it gets any better.
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Kevin & I also cancelled our planned backpacking trip up into the high mountains (Lake Katherine) due to probability of rain and mostly cloudy weather. We could have survived the trip, but neither of us wanted to have our trip be about survival.

So we went to Bandelier National Park / Monument instead [http://www.nps.gov/band/index.htm], which is located at a vastly lower elevation, and thus warmer -- and we "car camped" instead. It was warm enough, night and day, and it only rained for ten or twenty minutes! Luckily, Kevin had put the canopy (over the cooking/eating area) up in the nick of time.

Had we backpacked into the high mountains -- something like twelve thousand feet --, we'd not have had the car-camping option of driving away if we didn't like the weather, or became overwhelmed with a desire for huevos rancheros at Harry's Roadhouse.

Man, it was so beautiful in Frijoles Canyon! Lush and green! And climbing that series of wooden ladders up to the kiva in the cave was quite an experience! It was my second time up those ladders, and in Bandelier, but the first was more than ten years ago, when Kevin & I were new together. Since we had no "official" anniversary previously, we decided to make the date, yesterday (August 30) our "anniversary". The marker is the date of our return and climb up those ladders -- which somehow connected our selves then with our selves now, and rounded things out into completeness.
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