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Old 09-16-2013, 09:40 PM
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1. Domestic dogs are pack animals who flourish in a system where they know who the leader is. They have long since been bread to "submit" to a human or other pack leader.



2. BDSM is consensual; the fictional situation you are creating (which seems to be causing you to go into a fit of CAPS RAGE) is closer to abduction into slavery, which is illegal... obviously.
1. This is conjecture at best, this system of "Dominance" and "Submission" may be the intended effect to instill within these creatures, but no Human truly knows what is truly going in any creature's, outside of the Human species, mind because no Human has effectively been able to understand any species that exists outside their own or at least no one who has told others of the Human species about such an occurrence.~


2. If it is happening to me, my mind does not make that distinction.~
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:45 PM
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Well, good luck with the military with that attitude. I do not date military people, nor would I ever serve (serve! ha!), maybe you're right about questioning orders.

If you're happily going into the navy and ready to follow orders on a daily basis, I do not know what problem you could possibly have with a consensual D/s relationship.
I don't have a problem with consenting BDSM relationships, if you had fully and completely read any of my first post in this thread you would have known that instead of making unfounded accusations at me.
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:45 PM
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If it happened to you, it wouldn't be consensual given that you have just expressed how negatively you feel about it. Due to the fact that you haven't given your consent, it would not be BDSM, it would be some sort of sexual crime coupled with some sort of violent crime. If you are saying that you simply have no interest in kinky play, that's fine, if you are going further with that and saying that there is no way for that sort of thing to be consensual, then you are horrifically incorrect and more than a little guilty of ignorance,
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:49 PM
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If it happened to you, it wouldn't be consensual given that you have just expressed how negatively you feel about it. Due to the fact that you haven't given your consent, it would not be BDSM, it would be some sort of sexual crime coupled with some sort of violent crime. If you are saying that you simply have no interest in kinky play, that's fine, if you are going further with that and saying that there is no way for that sort of thing to be consensual, then you are horrifically incorrect and more than a little guilty of ignorance,
The first part of what you is said is exactly what I am saying.~

Although I AM interested in some trying out some VERY LIGHT whipping, not too hard spanking, not bloody scratching, and some biting I'll have to see how hard I like it I may like drawing blood with biting.~ ;3
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:50 PM
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I don't have a problem with consenting BDSM relationships, if you had fully and completely read any of my first post in this thread you would have known that instead of making unfounded accusations at me.
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I don't know if it's me or it's an instinctual thing, but when I see anything anywhere with collars, leashes, chains, ropes, hand-cuffs, restraints, and ESPECIALLY cages used to contain something against its' will this...feeling...wells up deep inside of me a slowly building...rage....a desire almost undeniable to RIP-APART TO SHRED TO COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY DESTROY ALL SUCH DEVICES!!!~~~ AAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!~ It is for this reason I can not be around creatures like "pets" in cages for long.~
in a thread about BDSM, which is consensual kink, made it seem as though you feel as if kinky play, edgeplay, is not consensual. It was just weird to say that physically harming someone without their explicit consent is a bad thing as if that wasn't a view shared by the vast majority of sane people, and quite a lot of people deemed insane too.
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:55 PM
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in a thread about BDSM, which is consensual kink, made it seem as though you feel as if kinky play, edgeplay, is not consensual. It was just weird to say that physically harming someone without their explicit consent is a bad thing as if that wasn't a view shared by the vast majority of sane people, and quite a lot of people deemed insane too.
Any who made that assumption made it completely on their own.~ I'd appreciate it if people read my words for what they are and not what they interpret them to be.~

If they had continued to read that post they would have read that I actually have no problems with consenting containment or restraint of any kind that others do amongst each other, but it's when it is NOT CONSENSUAL is when I froth at the mouth almost.~

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Old 09-16-2013, 10:19 PM
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ironic thing to say considering you totally misinterpreted my post. When you said -
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I don't know if it's me or it's an instinctual thing, but when I see anything anywhere with collars, leashes, chains, ropes, hand-cuffs, restraints, and ESPECIALLY cages used to contain something against its' will this...feeling...wells up deep inside of me a slowly building...rage....a desire almost undeniable to RIP-APART TO SHRED TO COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY DESTROY ALL SUCH DEVICES!!!~~~ AAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!~ It is for this reason I can not be around creatures like "pets" in cages for long.~
It was if the vast majority of people, or at least the people in here, do not agree that non consensual violence is wrong. It would be like me coming into a thread about polyamory and saying how wrong it is to cheat. The assumption would be that I believe polyamory is somehow related to cheating.
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:20 PM
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if that wasn't a view shared by the vast majority of sane people, and quite a lot of people deemed insane too.
here i was saying that a lot of people who have been deemed insane would also agree that non consensual violence is wrong
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:54 PM
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london ~ "ironic thing to say considering you totally misinterpreted my post."


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here i was saying that a lot of people who have been deemed insane would also agree that non consensual violence is wrong

Well actually I did misunderstand the "sane" and "insane" parts of your post, I'm sorry about that, and so I have cut those parts out of my prveious post concerning that, but I did not make ANYTHING seem like ANYTHING else, I said what I meant and I am not responsible for anyone else's interpretation of my words.~ Everything I say is meant to be taken literally with NO "implied" "value" or "meaning" "left unsaid but implied", if I haven't said it I haven't said it. I think the problem is that many people READ MY POSTS REALLY FAST WITHOUT TAKING THE TIME TO READ IT OVER AGAIN IN CASE THEY TOTALLY MISUNDERSTOOD IT!~ XD

^_^ You are totally right, it's like everyone doesn't bother to read more than a glance at any of my posts since all the words are there, they just don't seem to be making any sense as they were typed to be in other people's heads!~ XD

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Old 09-16-2013, 11:36 PM
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Colors-

one issue I see is this;

There is a HUGE pressure inside of a BDSM community to instill upon everyone the NECESSITY of consent.
The idea that there isn't consent-negates it being BDSM altogether. Without consent, it's not BDSM, it's something altogether different.

So saying....
i'm ok if there is consent but otherwise I have an issue with it....
is like saying I'm ok with BDSM but I'm not ok with abuses that happen in the world that look similar to BDSM but in fact are not.

Which-is confusing in a thread devoted only to BDSM-and absolutely NOT supporting or approving of abuse in any form...
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