Polyamory.com Forum  

Go Back   Polyamory.com Forum > Polyamory > Fireplace

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #251  
Old 09-06-2013, 04:53 PM
Dragon13 Dragon13 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: South Central California
Posts: 12
Default Shaved long time now!

I have been shaved for about 15 years now. It started simply because my wife wanted it that way and I figured I might get more oral sex because of it. But I found I like it smooth down there. Shaving is not that difficult, even in the ball area. A good safety razor makes all the difference. But I can't shave more than about once a week or it iritates the skin.
Reply With Quote
  #252  
Old 09-06-2013, 05:50 PM
gorgeouskitten gorgeouskitten is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: New England
Posts: 364
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon13 View Post
I have been shaved for about 15 years now. It started simply because my wife wanted it that way and I figured I might get more oral sex because of it. But I found I like it smooth down there. Shaving is not that difficult, even in the ball area. A good safety razor makes all the difference. But I can't shave more than about once a week or it iritates the skin.
and hopefully you got more bjs....
__________________
keep on keeping on
Reply With Quote
  #253  
Old 09-06-2013, 07:08 PM
Dragon13 Dragon13 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: South Central California
Posts: 12
Default

Hard to say really. Would I have received fewer if I hadn't? Does any guy ever get enough? But guys should be fair. If you expect the ladies to be shaved, then they should be too. I think in the many years I have been doing it, I have only cut myself twice. Not really any worse than cutting your face.
Reply With Quote
  #254  
Old 09-06-2013, 08:18 PM
Woodie54 Woodie54 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 15
Default Tidy up

Some lady's do not like the hair,they do not want to feel like a beaver.
Reply With Quote
  #255  
Old 09-06-2013, 09:33 PM
Dragon13 Dragon13 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: South Central California
Posts: 12
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodie54 View Post
Some lady's do not like the hair,they do not want to feel like a beaver.
Good point. And I must admit, I find a shaved pussy to be much more visually appealing than a hairy one. Everyone should be happy with it. I keep shaved regularly and my wife usually doesn't like to shave. So, we are probably opposite from most. But if it works, do it.
Reply With Quote
  #256  
Old 09-07-2013, 06:36 AM
nycindie's Avatar
nycindie nycindie is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Big Apple
Posts: 7,289
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon13 View Post
And I must admit, I find a shaved pussy to be much more visually appealing than a hairy one.
For centuries, the sight of a bush was a big turn-on. It wasn't until internet porn popularized clean-shaven pussies that it suddenly became appealing. Watch some classic porn from the 60s and 70s and no one is shaven! Women only needed to trim a little if they wanted to, and shave the bikini line so that their bushes didn't stick out the edges of their bathing suits. For a man to shave his body or pubes 15 years ago was considered very, very odd. Only gay men, bodybuilders, and certain types of athletes (cyclists) did it.

But the current trend is directly related to online porn! Back then, porn wasn't as easy to access as it is now and there was no need to be as explicit as there is now. People felt lucky to be able to bring home a naughty super 8 film for their projector and get an eyeful of bush! And the films had storylines and took a while to get to the money shot.

Nowadays porn is so readily available online - but to keep people on a site, they need the payoff sooner. That requires having everything shaven, and positioning the actors so that all genitals can be seen more easily on camera. Viewers don't want to wait, they want to see it all, up close, right away, forget a story. It's basically a marketing ploy to get more porn customers, so the trend is to have all shaven genitalia, and this has brainwashed the masses into thinking that hairless pussies are more attractive. It never was before, so why is it now? Pubic hair is a sign of sexual maturity. Think about it. Personally, I don't like my pussy looking like a child's.
__________________
The world opens up... when you do.

Oh, oh, can't you see? Love is the drug for me. ~Bryan Ferry
"Love is that condition in which another person's happiness is essential to your own." ~Robert Heinlein

Last edited by nycindie; 09-07-2013 at 06:39 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #257  
Old 09-07-2013, 10:13 PM
Tonberry Tonberry is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,378
Default

While I don't believe my pussy looks like a child's when it's hairless (mostly because I have a developed clitoris and labia that I distinctly remember not being that way when I was a child), it's true that the porn industry is what made it appealing to people. They've proven that the porn material you watch can influence what you get aroused by, to the point that men who aren't pedophiles start getting erections when they see their baby girl naked, because they've been so trained to see that kind of genitals associated with sex.

And since porn stars often also have surgery on their labia to make sure nothing "sticks out" (which by the way is counter-intuitive if the only point was to make it so people could see everything, it's quite obvious that it's not the only reason here).

I personally don't think the idea was to make women look like children, though, but like dolls. Dolls have nothing showing, they're smooth everywhere, they don't have discoloration around their asshole, etc. So to achieve that "plastic" look porn introduced shaved/waxed everything (except what the barbie doll has: head hair and eyebrows, the later still needing to be trimmed to look the "right" way). And yes, it changed what people react to, but the point wasn't to make them children, it was to make them objects, to remove their humanity and animality (what's more animal that hairs when you're a mammal?)

It is a shame when people start to require it or become unable to orgasm or get excited without it, and it's definitely a matter of habit (I've noticed a similar thing with attraction towards males, in North America people seem to find circumcised penises to look better, and uncircumcised ones to look "weird". Believe me, people don't think that way in Europe where less that 1% of males are circumcised.

Now, does it hurt anyone if you do shave? Not really. But being asked to is definitely something that makes me more than uncomfortable. It means "you must match what I've seen in porn" rather than porn reflecting real life.

Anyway. My husband shaves sometimes. I don't like the way it looks at all, but it's his decision to make. I hate when it's growing back though, because it hurt having sex, the hairs scratch my clitoris and it's very painful. It's also less enjoyable when he's bald than when he has all of his hairs, because there are no hairs to stimulate me as he trusts in and out, meaning my clitoris gets no stimulation instead of getting tons.

Anyways, it's definitely not normal to be turned off by hairs, when hairs have been until so recently the thing that made adults arousing and children not arousing. I wished people with hairs had representation in porn (as well as everywhere else in the media, really, because I don't limit that to just pelvic hairs), because some women being shaved, bleached and implanted is fine, but if you can't find anything else, or have to look for it specifically, we're just training new generations of teenagers to be attracted to things that don't exist naturally, and making it hard for people to make a decision of what they want to do with their bodies.

I know people often think I'm overreacting when I say things like those, but as someone who, for several years, made the decision not to shave anything (not my pelvis, not my legs, not my armpits, etc), I'm only too aware of the hate speech you can get just walking in the streets. And that makes no sense to me, and in the end even I was pressured into shaving again just so I can walk in the street without being insulted or having children point at me like I'm some sort of circus freak.
I mean think about it. I merely made the decision not to alter my body, and somehow that made me dirty, disgusting,obscene to children, someone who didn't take care of herself, someone who couldn't expect anyone to ever be attracted to her, etc.

I certainly resent the fact that I now spend hours every week changing myself, giving myself the message that the real me is ugly and I need not to be it, only to be able to go get groceries in peace. It just wasn't worth it in the end, but it's hours every week doing something I don't really have a reason to do, except knowing that I'll be discriminated against if I don't.

And I still can't wrap my head around thinking it's the way it should be, that people should go through something they find uncomfortable and painful (even shaving leads to razor burns, itchiness and ingrown hairs, waxing/epilating is of course even worse pain-wise) before they can be "normal". Shouldn't "normal" be the way people are in the first place?
I mean imagine if we as a society thought everyone needed to have a tattoo, otherwise they're gross and unfuckable, and so people who weren't interested in tattoos in the first place had to go through getting one just so people would leave them alone. You'd probably think "well obviously, everyone who wants a tattoo should be free to have one. But in all logic, that would be the exception, not the rule".

I feel the same about body hair. How many people would have decided to shave if they had never seen anyone shaven, and just came up with the idea on their own? Most people don't make the decision, they just follow what they've been told, and that kind of sucks, because people really should be given personal freedoms about things like that.
I don't like shaving. It hurts, I sweat more and stink as a result, it takes a lot of time, it feels less nice and when I look at myself, I feel like a plucked chicken.

And I really dislike that it's spreading to men too. It feels like at some point someone thought "hey, women are supposed to shave body hairs but men aren't, that's not fair", and instead of making it so that everyone could decide either way, they concluded "let's make it so men are supposed to shave as well".
I don't think that one is porn-related as much as it is about cosmetic companies thinking they'd make more money if they also sold products to men.
I mean, it could be porn-related. But really, you can see a guy's junk regardless of how long his hairs are, unless he's really small, and porn actors definitely aren't. And the interesting parts of a man's penis to show on camera are at the tip of it, not the base. And as for the doll thing, that would presumably only apply to gay/bi porn, where a man is the object of desire (women notoriously prefer other forms of porn than the visual one, so pictures and videos are rarely targeted to them).

Well, I wasn't expecting to rant for so long! I'm not saying shaving is wrong, bad or anything. I'm fine with it, I just wish it was a decision that wasn't made for me. And while I know I can make the decision not to shave, I also know the consequences of that, and they're even worse.
Reply With Quote
  #258  
Old 09-08-2013, 08:26 AM
london london is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: UK - land of the free
Posts: 1,635
Default

The reason I keep myself shaven has very little to do with sex and lots to do with hygiene. Females are juicy, bloody creatures, and I think having hair just makes those things linger. I am particularly hairy though.
Reply With Quote
  #259  
Old 09-08-2013, 08:55 PM
ColorsWolf's Avatar
ColorsWolf ColorsWolf is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: CA, U.S.A.
Posts: 362
Cool

The issue with hair removal associated with Hygiene is just like the association of Circumcision with Hygiene: it is more psychological than having any concrete non-disputable basis in scientific reality.

Yes, shaving can help prevent many illnesses or conditions of the genitals, but so can WASHING and WEARING A CONDOM, the same goes for the foreskin that circumcision claims to "help".~

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd rather get off my lazy bum and wash my body & avoid having sex with people without a test first rather than shave or cut off various parts of myself.

Here's an interesting fact: circumcision DOES NOT PREVENT STDs NOR HAS BEEN PROVEN TO "REDUCE" STDs (WITH UNDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE FOUND IN A PROPERLY CONDUCTED STUDY) <-THIS IS THE PART MISSING FROM SO-CALLED "STUDIES".~

Last edited by ColorsWolf; 09-08-2013 at 09:01 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #260  
Old 09-08-2013, 11:11 PM
herstory herstory is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Oregon
Posts: 26
Default men and hair down there

I've had men both ways, hair and no hair.

I prefer some hair. I like it a little trimmed but not so short that it's rough. I like the cushion it provides since I enjoy a lot of clitoral and u-spot stimulation.

Sometimes it's nice when the testicles are shaved. But it's not a necessary thing.

I do love me some hairy men.

I'm also cool with women not shaving. I recently went over a year without shaving anything and the guys that I was with didn't mind. I did occasionally trim the bush for my own liking.

I have sensitive skin and fast growing hair so shaving and hair removal is like torture and a waste of my time.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
bush, genitalia, grooming, hair, physical health, preferences, pubic, shave, shaving

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:10 PM.