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Old 07-23-2013, 03:33 PM
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Mag, Not sure I get the truth without reality question. Are you asking is there truth in God even if there is no God?
Nah. I meant, for me, there is truth in myths (psychological, emotional), even if the myth didn't happen. Men don't come back to life and breed (Osiris), or "ascend" (Jesus). Really. But what is the meaning of ruling a spiritual under-or-overworld after physical death?

Jesus told parables. Going deeper, perhaps his whole life is a parable someone made up after reading the obscure theological rantings of Paul of Tarsus. Christianity is rife with pseudo-history.
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:41 PM
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christianity (whatever sect your looking at, even all of them)

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it's like the english teacher that has overanalized a book for their class, "why did the writer use this color?" -to symbolize ....

ask the writer and find out the teacher is a bigger quack then the doctor who just got his license yanked.

everyone else has decided they know what messages jesus was trying to teach, yet, ... have you ever looked at it ?

"free will", ... or gods will be done ???
"unconditional love" ... on one condition ... ???

and stories are created by learned "christians" about symbolism about what everything means.

you love your children right ?, ... would you punish the good child because the other did something bad ?

it was a guy hundreds of years after the death of jesus that decide "jesus died for our sins" this was a guy who had never met him, never talked with him, ... even the apostles who were closest to jesus didn't come to this conclusion. wouldn't judas been seen as more the hero as he enabled jesus to be the one that enabled jesus to die for our sins ?

many stories are created after the fact to explain problems with inaccurate conclusions by other people prior to them, ... instead of reanalyzing the initial conclusion and wondering "i don't think that's really what it was about"


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then you've got many people looking to what's in scripture and interpreting some things as symbolic, other things as literal, stating everything is the divine commandment of the lord.

don't eat shrimp
don't eat pork
men should not sleep with other men.

well we know shrimp and pork can be carriers of some pretty nasty diseases ... this sounds like health advice not some commandment of god.

have a look at the "men shall not sleep with other men" and you find "because this is discussing" ... really ??? that doesn't sound like an all-loving god, that sounds like a homophobe.

health advice, a homophobe, considerations for a time when without men the population would die off ... doesn't sound very divine at all, just ways to stay alive and look out for future generations.

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i've got less an issue with the bible and more an issue with how it's practiced.

the view that it's against polygamy, ... it wasn't till about 300 years after jesus died that a roman emperor who declared war to kill christians declared an end to polygamy, jesus lived in a time polygamy was accepted and the bible states rules for when a man should be married to more than one woman.

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it's easy to push a view you insist is right if you ignore everything to the contrary and exile everyone who sees things in a different light or wants to question things so that they may better understand.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:08 PM
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So back on the rails, pretty much just me at this point, huh? Kind of figured. Thanks anyway.
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Old 07-24-2013, 12:43 AM
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Oh, you mean you WERE looking for other former JWs?
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:24 AM
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It was a curiosity question. Never know where they might show up. Unless you count all the ex-JW forums. You do kind of expect them there.
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:35 AM
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I am no longer one, but was raised JW. They do indeed believe in education. I went to college as an active JW. It's encouraged nowadays to do what you need to do to make a living.

I may not have agreed with all of it, but my congregation had some of the kindest people I've met in my life. I will say just that.

That being said, if you are happier out of the religion then that was obviously the right choice for you. I wish you well in your journey.
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:35 AM
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Not I, but I dated one and my Godson's bio-mom is.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:37 PM
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I am no longer one, but was raised JW. They do indeed believe in education. I went to college as an active JW. It's encouraged nowadays to do what you need to do to make a living.

I may not have agreed with all of it, but my congregation had some of the kindest people I've met in my life. I will say just that.

That being said, if you are happier out of the religion then that was obviously the right choice for you. I wish you well in your journey.
Understood and likewise. FWIW I am glad that they changed on that one. I'm happy for the next generation who will have to grow up in that environment whenever improvements are made. I just kind of wish the org wasn't so hardline on things that they end up changing their mind on.
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Not I, but I dated one and my Godson's bio-mom is.
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