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Old 01-15-2013, 06:09 PM
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Default it is very funny

it is very funny

whatever I write here, in this forum, there is always someone that comes to say that I am stupid.

Or, in the opposite, is it "the stupid" (= the person that only understands his/her own brain) that comes to show he/she is the stupid one ?

big philosophy problem.............
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:22 PM
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Maybe it'd help if you don't post such sweeping generalizations. I know that's what I reacted to in your posts. The one was better because it did acknowledge that this is the case in your poly family but you don't know about other poly families.

I still ask curious what you meant by installing harmony. It's a phrase I haven't heard before.
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:34 PM
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Default what you meant by installing harmony

installing harmony...

whatever the human group, tensions arise.
Normal results of normal differences.

We noticed (our company gives trainings) that "100% male groups" are sometimes very close to heavy disputes.

And "it is just enough to put a woman inside" and all tensions go down,to a level of "mutual a acceptance"

= the woman installed/brought harmony.

Persons = music instruments.
Different instruments may play a nice music. If YES "harmony is installed"
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:41 PM
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IAnd to state that bisexual women are smarter and more creative is insulting to those of us that aren't bisexual.
Very much so.

Then going on to say those who disagree with your thoughts might be stupid and incapable of understanding anything but their own brain...

(I'm sorry, I confess I only skimmed, but I didn't see anyone call you stupid; I only saw people having some different opinions from yours. Hopefully no one is calling anyone stupid.)
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:13 AM
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it is very funny

whatever I write here, in this forum, there is always someone that comes to say that I am stupid.

Or, in the opposite, is it "the stupid" (= the person that only understands his/her own brain) that comes to show he/she is the stupid one ?

big philosophy problem.............
Funny - I didn't see anyone on this thread write that to you (can you please direct us to to where you saw that?)

And actually, the only possibly disparaging remarks I saw were those that stated that people like me weren't as adaptable (because I'm not a female bisexual). And I think you made those remarks if I'm not mistaken.

Now I've got no problem with you making those remarks (I agree and think women in general are better at many things BUT also worse in other ways then men). They're your opinions. But what's with the victim thing? No one's havin a go at you mate, just a good discussion where each others opinions might be respectfully challenged.

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Old 01-16-2013, 03:16 AM
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hellooooooooo friends

it is interesting to notice that almost all women here, real "polys" or "thinking about it" are bisexual.

(I am going to say it shortly, I could write a book, poetry, on this matter...)

In my opinion this relies on a "female universal psychology" :
the woman is much more able to adapt herself to "changes".

Since millions of years she leaves her house, parents, friends, her personal family name, and even her city. This is a strong push to "change/adaptation".

And this "ability to change" relies on what ?
on "generosity"...

on a much complex "emotion/feeling" system than the male one.

This is essentially why I became a teacher :
apart the (normal) pure teacher's pleasure of "building the progresses of the other one",
I discovered that "the woman is a violin",
and I see my role as "playing the most wonderful symphonies she may sing"...

Additionally I discovered that a woman “loves better” the man that has this skill…

So, back to the point, the woman may easier be BISEXUAL, because she may adapt herself faster/better than a man...

Furthermore (no insult, no offense, it is just something I noticed), bisexual women are "more clever" and "more generous", and have a faster brain.

I could continue for hours on this interesting subject.

Tell me your thoughts, please

If it is NOT interesting, say it.
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You made the statement that most women here, feel free to read your original post, are bisexual but have provided no evidence to support that claim. Then you made a few sweeping generalizations about the superiority of bisexual women, once again without any supporting evidence. Now you are claiming that people who don't agree with your opinion are stupid, or closed minded. That's pretty un-nice of you.

You might stimulate more productive dialogue if you had phrased your question more accurately and, rather than make broad generalizations, present more factual supporting points.

You know for fact that the women in your poly family are bisexual. Good point to make. Who can argue with that?

You have noticed the bisexual women who you are involved with are sharper (or however you care to describe them) than other women you know. Also an acceptable statement without coming across as potentially arrogant. One could assume you make good choices in partners, yay you.

You even went so far as to try to equate "real" polys with bisexuality, ruling out at least most straight women by default.

Just my humble opinion: If you are going to make careless statements, be a bit more willing to weather the, what so far have been, relevant and respectful reactions to your statement without implying, however passive-aggressively, that those people are stupid or small-minded.

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Old 01-18-2013, 12:31 PM
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it is very funny

whatever I write here, in this forum, there is always someone that comes to say that I am stupid.

Or, in the opposite, is it "the stupid" (= the person that only understands his/her own brain) that comes to show he/she is the stupid one ?

big philosophy problem.............
As you know, I have had reason to look at your personal profile, read your description of yourself, and we have entered into personal correspondence. I would leave it at that, and have no intention of quoting from that private correspondence. But you are saying things openly on this forum that I feel need to be addressed.

Frankly, you come across as incredibly arrogant. YOU are philosophical. YOU have all the answers. YOUR role is "building the progresses of the other one".

WE are all stupid shmucks if we don't appreciate your wonderful lessons on "Life as it SHOULD be lived". Some of your other quotes:
Quote:
I discovered that "the woman is a violin",
and I see my role as "playing the most wonderful symphonies she may sing"

Well, if I love you (it is YOUR ROLE to install in my heart a deep love for you ... )

So, please my darling, don't be afraid to become bisexual, I will help you.
I find those really condescending - and self-adulatory! I realise that English isn't your first language and this might be part of the reason, but I think that you should become aware of just how you come across to other people.

You started off an interesting discussion here, then said "Tell me your thoughts, please"
Then, when people don't see things the way you do, you criticise them, or pretend that you're on some higher level of illumination.

As far as I can see, nobody here has been abusive, aside from you. (I enjoyed redpepper's gentle sarcasm - but it was gentle.) I don't want to be abusive either, but I can't help imagining that poly family of yours...

(screen starts to wobble or mist over)

a) Judging by your avatar, you're a handsome [attractive], middle-aged man. Judging from your expression, you are well aware of that.
b) From your statements, you're in the teaching profession.
c) You say that all the women in your poly family are bisexual.
d) You say that you prefer bisexual women, that you find them more intelligent, more open, etc. etc.
e) You say to another member here: "So, please my darling, don't be afraid to become bisexual, I will help you."

I put that all in the blender and ask you:
1) Are any of the women in your family [ex-] students of yours?
2) How many men are in your family? Are they also alphas? Or are you the only one?
3) Do you just invite into your family the kind of woman who is likely to be bisexual?
4) Has it ever occured to you that some of these young, impressionable, hero-worshipping women in your family might be practicing bisexuality as a way to "please the teacher"? I mean, if they find you attractive and want your approval, and ALSO know that you think less favourably of women who AREN'T bisexual, don't you think that JUST MAYBE that might influence their behaviour?
5) Aren't "adaptable", "able to change" sometimes pseudonyms for "pliable", "easily moulded"?

I LOVE women: straight women, bi women, lesbians, young women, old women, women my age. But I'd never think to offer to "help" a woman to become bi - or lesbian or straight. I would certainly offer to support her through any shit that she was going through from people [friends and/or family] who rejected her choices... And if I suggested to a woman that she was a violin on which I was going to "play the most wonderful symphonies she may sing"... Well, I hope that she'd either laugh in my face or give me a smack in the gob.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:41 AM
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It is a honour to receive such a nice collection of interesting mails

thanks to

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Just to increase the friendship of this forum, I give here some short answers to questions


I put that all in the blender and ask you:
1) Are any of the women in your family [ex-] students of yours?
NO, NOT AT ALL

2) How many men are in your family? Are they also alphas? Or are you the only one?
ALL MEN HAVE THE SAME STYLE, no "guru"


3) Do you just invite into your family the kind of woman who is likely to be bisexual?
WE INVITE ONLY A WOMAN THAT WANTS TO BE/LIVE WITH US



4) Has it ever occured to you that some of these young, impressionable, hero-worshipping women in your family might be practicing bisexuality as a way to "please the teacher"? I mean, if they find you attractive and want your approval, and ALSO know that you think less favourably of women who AREN'T bisexual, don't you think that JUST MAYBE that might influence their behaviour?
WE ALL TRY TO PLEASE TO THE OTHER ONES (it is a "basic rule")


5) Aren't "adaptable", "able to change" sometimes pseudonyms for "pliable", "easily moulded"?
FAST/BAD INTERPRETATIONS ARE FREQUENTLY IMPERFECT AND FALSE
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:24 PM
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I didn't send you any mail.

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Old 01-20-2013, 01:50 AM
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It's not just women. I meet a lot of bisexual or heteroflexible men in poly situations as well. Maybe they're quieter on here... but I think the fact that a person can explore and enjoy more facets of their sexuality in poly bring this out regardless of sex. I definitely felt that as a draw myself even though my initial poly relationships were with men (I always liked women, I just was had no practice and was nervous as can be).

Not saying you have to be bi to explore facets. That's just one way.

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