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Old 12-10-2009, 11:16 PM
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I did it for 4 years.
I had a blast.

Like Legion said-it's best if you don't go up "trying to be sexy".
I learned that one accidentally on night one. I was scared to death and asked another girl for advice-she said, "pick a song you REALLY love that just takes you away and go with the song-the rest will follow."
I took her advice and never regretted it.

They had a rule-two song limit unless tips warranted more (because the dj got paid off the dancers tipping them). I always got three songs and on slow nights they'd let me stay up till I absolutely HAD to sit down for a few.

But I didn't get into the "nasty" crap some girls did to make money (opening themselves up THERE, fingering themselves, licking themselves etc).

I focused on strengthening my body while simultaneously enjoying the music-I banked. I only did "table dances" for select people. I was ANAL RETENTIVE that NO ONE and I do mean NO ONE touched me for any reason.

I left two guys unconscious on the floor when they doubted me and tried. For some reasons the dumbasses would wait till you turned your back-with no conscious thought that the back of the stage was a damn mirror. They reached out to grab and I kicked back with one 4 inch heel and left 'em laid out unconscious on the floor. Never did negatively impact my money.

I also was anal retentive about cleanliness which drove some of the other girls nuts. I insisted on cleaning the whole stage, mirror and poles with bleach before I went on stage EVERY single time. They thought it was a waste of time, I didn't care.

I was a "pole monkey" doing handstands and swings and upside down tricks on the pole. Got my arms in kick ass shape (at the time).

No desire to go back to the clubs, but I'd love to have a pole in my house!
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:57 PM
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Long, long ago, in a galaxy not so far away, I was involved with a stripper. We were both very young and had no idea how to live together, but did our best to love each other. I found the whole experience (in the context of stripping) to leave an incredibly bad taste in my mouth. While I was flattered that such a lovely woman was so obviously in love with me, I had to really work to wrap my head around the fact that she was a couple steps away from prostitution. She never sold her body, but she definitely rented it out for a while. She had zero respect for money and a generally bad outlook on the male persuasion.

I've been to a strip club maybe twice since (this was more than 10 years ago) and I saw her face on every young woman that takes the stage. I saw her longing and disdain; I saw her sadness and resignation; I saw her long struggle to reclaim her dignity (which she most definitely has). And while I understand that some women can keep their head on their shoulders while working in the sex industry, on the whole, I think it's a very damaging profession on many levels.. for the patrons as well as the strippers. IMHO.
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Old 12-11-2009, 01:29 AM
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And while I understand that some women can keep their head on their shoulders while working in the sex industry, on the whole, I think it's a very damaging profession on many levels.. for the patrons as well as the strippers. IMHO.
I think you are ABSOLUTELY dead on with that one.
There are a few-and I'm proud (AND VERY THANKFUL) that I was one-who can keep their heads on straight.
But it is damaging to both sides in many ways.

One thing for me that was negative was that I found a disdain for men. I THANK GOD had men like GG in my life who I could look at and SEE were not like "those" men. But it was a battle I waged every day-wondering if a man saw ME or if he only saw my body.
In fact-on the body note I was talking to Maca about that last night. That one of the ANNOYING things men do (imho) is that they "try to find a woman to date". WTF? How can you find someone who is good to date? By LOOKING?

You MIGHT find someone who LOOKS nice, but you know NOTHING about them unless you take the time to try to BEFRIEND them without using your cock to consider them.

I get SO disgusted with men (still) sometimes. Even Maca, tells me he is interested in finding a girlfriend, I tell him "so be friendly-get to know PEOPLE". Not just ATTRACTIVE WOMEN-PEOPLE. Because you never know-that GUY you meet and befriend might know the PERFECT woman for you-but you are so damn busy checking out the hot chick who wants to use you for your wallet that you never get that opportunity.

That industry really promotes the idea that if you just put in enough timeand money-you can have everything you think you want in the body of a succubus. But time and money haven't a damn thing to do with getting a woman who wants to STICK AROUND.
If you want a woman to stick around-you have to be willing to get vulnerable and show her YOU with all your weaknesses, so she can feel comfortable showing you hers. THEN you find you can trust one another as friends and somewhere along the line-you realize that you care and love one another and WOW-then you fall in love.
AND THEN you have the friendship and mutual understanding that will help guide you through MAINTAINING a long-term relationship.

Stripping really taught me how shallow people are and how everyone (the girls and the guys) were all about "but I want it RIGHT NOW".

I did it because it allowed me every minute of the day to spend with my young daughter (single mom) and 4 nights a week too. She spent weekends with grandparents, and she had me M-T for the nighttimes as well as every single daytime M-F and any weekend day I needed for any reason. If it weren't for that I can't fathom I would have ended up taking the job-but at the same time, it did a lot for helping me grow and understand where people screw up in their relationships.

Sorry... rant.
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Old 12-11-2009, 01:49 AM
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That is also what women do. I read the "I can't find any good men" daily on OKC. Ranting only at men when it applies to everybody seems to be aiming at only half the target.
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I almost got a job at Hooters and realized that I just couldn't do it because it just made me so sad to see the number of lonely men who were there just to be able to experience some female attention. I turned down a phone sex job for the same reason. It just seems to be an industry that makes money off of loneliness.
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Old 12-11-2009, 02:29 AM
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And anybody who can help dispel some of that loneliness for a bit is doing a good thing. Somebody can be at home by themselves or go someplace for a bit of human presence; I can attest the latter is sometimes a godsend. There were times that I could order a pizza to eat at home or go eat pizza at a restaurant and get a bit of interaction with other people--and the restaurant won. No Hooters (nor even a strip club) in my hometown, and becoming a regular at a restaurant was one way to enjoy some regular interaction.
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Old 12-11-2009, 02:34 AM
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And anybody who can help dispel some of that loneliness for a bit is doing a good thing. Somebody can be at home by themselves or go someplace for a bit of human presence; I can attest the latter is sometimes a godsend. There were times that I could order a pizza to eat at home or go eat pizza at a restaurant and get a bit of interaction with other people--and the restaurant won. No Hooters (nor even a strip club) in my hometown, and becoming a regular at a restaurant was one way to enjoy some regular interaction.
I suppose so, but I guess I don't really see it as dispelling the loneliness. Not in the way more authentic connections could. I mean there's something to just getting out and being in the presence of people, but I don't see paying for some attention as really dispelling the isolation. It's more of a holiday or a window of what it looks like to not be isolated, but doesn't do much to bring someone out of that isolation.
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That is also what women do. I read the "I can't find any good men" daily on OKC. Ranting only at men when it applies to everybody seems to be aiming at only half the target.
You are correct. As I noted in my post-that is one of the issues that it caused me-is seeing the.... shallowness in men, even when it's not ALL men or even ONLY men.
But I wasn't making money off women.

At anyrate-yes you are correct and no it doesn't help in the sense of fixing things-it does sometimes help to get things off your chest and be reminded that your feelings/impressions are only a small part of the whole.

For me-I just don't get the "on the make" concept at all.
Until our talk (Maca and me) I didn't think much on it-but every dating RELATIONSHIP I've ever had-we started as friends first. Every single one. Because if they can't be my friend, and they can't accept my REAL life-they don't deserve to be my boyfriend or girlfriend...

maca was talking about taking a woman out on dates and "impressing her" and I was rolling my eyes because to me that is STUPID. Not even silly-flat fucking STUPID.

If the person doesn't have an interest in getting to know you in your REAL life-without you trying to be anything different why on God's Green Earth would you bother??????
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Yes and no Ceoli.
Sometimes those moments DO create true friendship. I have a number of people in my life today that met me in the strip bar. My god daughters father is one. my godkids mother is another. one of Maca's co-workers is another.

Those people were here OFTEN enough in their lonliness that those of us who DID have real hearts we were willing to use did befriend them. I spent HOURS sitting and b.s.ing about real world events and life in general with people there. Hell I often talked about God, religion and several people I met there found God through their talking with me IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. So all sorts of things one wouldn't expect happen there as well.
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Those people were here OFTEN enough in their lonliness that those of us who DID have real hearts we were willing to use did befriend them. I spent HOURS sitting and b.s.ing about real world events and life in general with people there. Hell I often talked about God, religion and several people I met there found God through their talking with me IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. So all sorts of things one wouldn't expect happen there as well.
This is true. I find such connections with such people in other places these days.
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