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Old 12-02-2009, 10:42 PM
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"If you are too angry, hostile and pissy to be friendly in your writing"
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your WRITING is angry and hostile
Besides that point, my writing is not angry.

"YOU'RE A FUCKING MORON!!!!" is an example of angry writing. Note the use of capital letters for an entire sentence to indicate yelling and the name calling with no content. Also note the multiple exclamation points commonly associated with emotion.

"You made a logical fallacy" is an example of emotionless writing pointing out a fact. Note the pragmatic language and lowercase letters addressing the point and not the personal character.
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:43 PM
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This is almost laughable..I hope others see it that way as well. "New agey" was never an issue. The statement was taken out of context, explained, and should have been dropped. Sorry to cause you such confusion Joreth.
Please let me know if there is a way to explain to you that "new-agey" means nothing to me...zero, nothing. I don't care about the term one drop. You own it, can have it. It's all yours
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:44 PM
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First of all, his beliefs in the original question at hand (the new-ageyness of the book) are not fundamentally different from everyone else here on the board. Some people agreed, some people didn't.

Second, his personal ability to read "new-age" in a given text is STILL not a product of his "mono wiring".

In order to bridge those gaps you keep wanting to bridge, we have to get to the real reason why he read the same book that Seventh Crow read and didn't think it was too new-agey when Seventh Crow did. Chasing after false trails like thinking it's his monogamous wiring will not bring us to that point.

This debate is precisely BECAUSE we're trying to get where he's coming from. His claim that his point of view stems from his monogamous wiring is not true and therefore, not where he's coming from. It's a red herring.
Except you are the only one left who doesn't "get" where he's coming from. My guess is that it's primarily because you've continued to be so caustic and come across as what you have self-identified yourself as that he wouldn't want to bother trying to explain it to you.

In fact-why should anyone waste their time trying to share any part of themselves or their understanding with someone who has already stated that they are an asshole? If an asshole is

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b. the worst part of a place or thing.


–adjective 3. Slang. stupid, mean, or contemptible.

as defined by dictionary.com then there really is no purpose in discussing anything with you. Unless we simply like to talk to stupid, mean or contemptible people.
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:47 PM
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"YOU'RE A FUCKING MORON!!!!" is an example of angry writing. .
Hopefully when you grow up and decide to contribute on a mature level you will have something of value to say. I'm officially hitting ignore on your comments. You are a loose canon, a negative influence on what has been a wonderful place to share and a safe place for many. Your opinions are null and void from here on in...rant away Joreth. IGNORE.
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:50 PM
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Interesting that you chose to refer to a dictionary for the definition of a slang word, since slang words tend to be rather fluid in their meaning and change depending upon context and even region.

I am often considered "mean" for simply having a different point of view and maintaining it, particularly when I debate it using pragmatic language and don't immediately defer to someone's position just because they "feel bad" that I disagreed. For that definition, I heartily embrace the term.

I also really don't care what you think of me personally, since it doesn't change the validity of my statements.

reference http://thefatoneinthemiddle.typepad....-know-me-.html and http://assholeskeptic.blogspot.com/2...nition-20.htmlfor a discussion on what being an "asshole" can mean & why I use it to refer to myself

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Heh. The New Love Without Limits is a book I recommend people avoid because it has far too much New Age fluff crust to truly be useful, in my opinion.
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Your comments are echoed to me by many poly people I know Seventh Crow. Fasciniating how a mono mind can look at the same words differently.
Again, the topic of whether someone's monogamous wiring affects one's spiritual outlook is the topic at hand, not whether or not Mono is a big poopyhead for saying it. If Mono has changed his opinion, that's great, but the topic is still worth discussing.

Hence, we are not attacking Mono, we are discussing a logical fallacy.

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Old 12-02-2009, 10:51 PM
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that was an example of what angry writing looked like. I'm sorry if you took it personally, but if I am to be accused of "angry writing" then let's all be clear on what exactly angry writing is, and nowhere in my posts did I write anything that looked like that except to serve as examples. That example was also written completely devoid of context so as to not be mistaken for a comment made specifically for this post or for anyone here. At least the following statement "is an example of angry writing" was included when I was quoted.

Would it help if I re-wrote it to say "Here is an example of 'angry writing': YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON FOR SAYING THAT THE SKY IS RED!!!!"?

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::headdesk::

Wow. I am truly amazed that people are still so determined to read into what's being said like that. I've seen nothing immature about what Joreth has been posting. However, I am still seeing some pretty clear double standards.

Ah well.
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Old 12-02-2009, 11:03 PM
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Wow. I am truly amazed that people are still so determined to read into what's being said like that. I've seen nothing immature about what Joreth has been posting. However, I am still seeing some pretty clear double standards.

Ah well.
I apologize Ceoli. I felt like we were getting back on track when the converstion went from productive to confrontational again...no fault of yours.

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I didn't see Joreth as getting confrontational. Blunt, yes, but not confrontational. There's a big difference.
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I didn't see Joreth as getting confrontational. Blunt, yes, but not confrontational. There's a big difference.
Blunt, confrontational, rude, polite, kind, cruel.
Whatever.

Unproductive is the term I chose.
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