Polyamory.com Forum  

Go Back   Polyamory.com Forum > Polyamory > Fireplace

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-28-2012, 08:50 AM
Somegeezer's Avatar
Somegeezer Somegeezer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Leeds, UK
Posts: 805
Default "Do you feel animals are more important than humans?"

I saw this question whilst I was browsing through OKC, and it caught my attention.

"Do you feel animals are more important than humans?"

I feel I have a great connection with animals that I just can't get with most people. There are a lot of people in my life that I really love and enjoy being with, but it's a difficult question for me to answer still.

I think if I were forced to make a decision; a theoritical decision, of course; I think I would choose animals over humans.

I've been brought up with animals all my life. I don't remember any great moments when I haven't had a pet. Something like 3 dogs, 4 cats [of which I have one now], a whole mass of cockatiels, often named amusing food items [Beans, Toast, Jam... etc - My father had a great sense of humour!].

Even pets that weren't mine, I've often been able to get along with easily. The only time I easily get that with people, are around those tiny human infants. =P It's as if once most people grow up, they turn into arseholes.

I'm very happy that there are a good few that don't seem to follow that, but I still think the animals win me over.

Then there's always the whole argument about us being animals ourselves... But that's a topic for a different thread.

How about you? Where do animals fit in your life? Where do they come in comparison to the people in your life?
__________________
[Insert witty comment here]
Feel free to add me up on facebook. - Just click here.
Do send a message in your request saying who you are and that you're from this forum. It will help me filter out any spam requests.
=]
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-28-2012, 12:00 PM
clairegoad's Avatar
clairegoad clairegoad is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Ozona, FL
Posts: 202
Default

That's one of the smarmy questions that Okcupid uses to learn about people..

Honestly, it makes sense... a dog lover doesn't want to be dating a dog hater. I like dogs, have owned several. I'm currently dating a man who dislikes dogs... intensely. Fortunately, he's come into my life when I am petless.

As far as liking animals more than humans..It really depends on the animal and the human... Comparing a delightful loving animal with a poorly behaved human isn't fair... neither is comparing a delightful loving human with a poorly behaved animal.

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-28-2012, 08:05 PM
InfinitePossibility InfinitePossibility is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 350
Default

A subject close to my heart, Somegeezer.

For the past 10 or so years, my life has been shaped and changed by my relationships with my dogs.

Some of the change has been painful and the relationships have not always been easy. One of my dogs and I spent several years working at our relationship to rebuild broken trust.

On the up side, my dogs have brought some of the best people in my life into it. And working through relationship problems with the dogs has taught me much about doing similar things with people. I'm far more patient about change taking time than I used to be.

I wouldn't say that I feel that my animals are more important than the important people in my life. But because they are dependent on me I will sometimes prioritise their needs above the needs of even important people (depends on the circumstances!).

For a few years now I've wanted to move towns to be closer to my friends and family (and now also to my SO). Life would be easier for all of us if I were closer. And I will move but not until after my oldest dog has passed away - because I feel he's just too old to move into a city. I don't want him to go through the stress of a house move at his age.

So in a way I put his needs above the needs of my family, close friends and SO (I still see all of them but not as much as I would do if I lived nearer).

But it does depend on the circumstances. When my father was dying the dogs were in kennels much of the time because I really needed to be with my family. We all needed to be together to support each other for those few weeks. So in that case, family needs came first.

I reckon that my relationships with my dogs are important relationships in my life - just like those I have with the important people in my life. I need all of them to be happy and don't feel that any are more important. They kind of intertwine.

It's all more love and (non-sexual) intimacy as far as I'm concerned. :-)

IP

Last edited by InfinitePossibility; 02-28-2012 at 08:11 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-29-2012, 03:28 AM
Somegeezer's Avatar
Somegeezer Somegeezer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Leeds, UK
Posts: 805
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by clairegoad View Post
That's one of the smarmy questions that Okcupid uses to learn about people..

Honestly, it makes sense... a dog lover doesn't want to be dating a dog hater. I like dogs, have owned several. I'm currently dating a man who dislikes dogs... intensely. Fortunately, he's come into my life when I am petless.

As far as liking animals more than humans..It really depends on the animal and the human... Comparing a delightful loving animal with a poorly behaved human isn't fair... neither is comparing a delightful loving human with a poorly behaved animal.

Only trying to train a bad human to be a good one will only get you punched... and that's if you're lucky enough to not get stabbed. =P

I agree that as an animal lover, I certainly wouldn't want people who hated animals in my life. I only have a cat right now, and she's low maintenance as it is. But I certainly plan to have other animals in the future and such.

Quote:
Originally Posted by InfinitePossibility View Post
It's all more love and (non-sexual) intimacy as far as I'm concerned. :-)
That's much how I feel about it too. Especially dogs. Very loving and loyal animals.
__________________
[Insert witty comment here]
Feel free to add me up on facebook. - Just click here.
Do send a message in your request saying who you are and that you're from this forum. It will help me filter out any spam requests.
=]
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-29-2012, 09:51 PM
nouryia's Avatar
nouryia nouryia is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 206
Default

I had dogs growing up. When I was little, we had a Doberman, later a German Shepherd. As an adult I've owned a Shih Tzu (now deceased) and I currently have an older Husky mix and two orange tabby cats.

I know with certainty that the more I know people, the more I love my pets. Unconditional love and loyalty like no other
__________________
I tried being reasonable. I didn't like it. ~Clint Eastwood~
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-01-2012, 11:06 AM
Cloud's Avatar
Cloud Cloud is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 24
Default

I like some animals more than some human.

BUT to me humans are more important than animals.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-01-2012, 12:04 PM
Somegeezer's Avatar
Somegeezer Somegeezer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Leeds, UK
Posts: 805
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nouryia View Post
I had dogs growing up. When I was little, we had a Doberman, later a German Shepherd. As an adult I've owned a Shih Tzu (now deceased) and I currently have an older Husky mix and two orange tabby cats.

I know with certainty that the more I know people, the more I love my pets. Unconditional love and loyalty like no other
I'd love a German Shepherd and a Siberian Husky. My first dog was a Border Collie. She lived til quite an old age. Had to give her up when we moved into this house at about age 5/6ish, but she still lived a good couple more years. My dad used to have a little Yorkshire Terrier mixed with something else too. He saved it from someone trying to drown it for some reason. =[

The cat I have now, I believe is Aegean or something close. Mainly white with bits of black and brown patches. She's probably about half way through her life. One of my older cats was hit by a car and died through the night before we could get him to the vet. His brother ended up running away a few years after. Sad times.
__________________
[Insert witty comment here]
Feel free to add me up on facebook. - Just click here.
Do send a message in your request saying who you are and that you're from this forum. It will help me filter out any spam requests.
=]
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-01-2012, 07:55 PM
nouryia's Avatar
nouryia nouryia is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 206
Default

Losing pets is hard... I consider mine family. Not more important than humans but often more likeable.
__________________
I tried being reasonable. I didn't like it. ~Clint Eastwood~
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-01-2012, 09:14 PM
ThatGirlInGray ThatGirlInGray is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northern Cali
Posts: 552
Default

I don't think animals are more important than humans, but I do feel that we as a society have a greater responsibility to the animals we've domesticated than we currently show. Not only did we create their current place in our lives (whether a pet or an animal raised for consumption/production) but they, like children (who we also have a greater responsibility for), can't do much to alter their own circumstances. So it's up to us to make sure they're treated well and not abused (even with animals raised for food, there's a humane way and a wrong way to slaughter them), but a lot of that responsibility is tossed away due to greed, meanness, or just plain stupidity.

*insert appropriate Spider-man quote here*
__________________
~~~~~~~~~
Pan Female, Hinge in a V between my mono (straight) husband, Monochrome and my poly (pan) partner, ThatGuyInBlack
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-02-2012, 04:51 AM
JaneQSmythe JaneQSmythe is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pennsyl-tucky
Posts: 1,079
Default Animals

I don't feel that animal are more important than humans. I do think that how seriously we take our responsibilities with regards to our animals can say a lot about us as people. I am not someone who regards my pets as "members of the family" or "children". I do, however, appreciate the unconditional love of my pets for what it is.

Growing up we generally had a dog - 1st was a beagle/dachsund mutt (adopted from a family that was moving), put down at the age of 6 when her 3rd slipped disc refused to respond to treatment (took me a long time to forgive mom for not telling me the day she was going to be put down [I was in 5th grade]...she thought it would be easier for me to not know). 2nd was a husky/beagle (?) mutt from the pound (that was a very interesting looking dog! - looked like a dingo with one blue eye, one brown, ears stood straight up and were huge - like bat ears).

MrS and I adopted a German Shepherd/Rotty mutt from the humane society when we moved to our first apt. When we were going to be gone longer during the day (I was starting my clinical rotations) we got her a pet kitten (also from the humane society) to keep her company (our lease actually specified "only one dog" - didn't say anything about cats) - OMG they were so attached to each other! Dog had to be put down at 11 yrs old due to pericardial effusion from a heart tumor. Cat dropped dead (literally - it was bizarre, fell off the couch... dead) a few weeks later.

Currently we have a boxer/pit bull type mutt (from the humane society) and her cat (also from the humane society) as well as her puppy - a collie/English shepherd mutt that randomly showed up at our back door (we live in the country). (Dog#1 doesn't generally get along with other dogs - so the fact that she accepted this puppy seemed like a sign. We did track down his former owner - 5 miles away - and leaving him with us was the best option available.) We also have a snake (have had other snakes/reptiles/amphibians/fish/rodents/ferrets along the way - but they don't give you nearly the lovin' that dogs and cats do - although my rat lived over 5 years and was, in his way, very affectionate).

We may not be the bestest pet parents in the world (training leaves a lot to be desired) - but our animals visit the vet regularly, are fixed, shots are up to date, get their heartworm pills, and none of them are overweight. Dogs have giant overhead runs outside and their own room in the house for when we are not there (plan is for a dog door to a large outside kennel in the future - for long days at work or overnights). Cat is indoors only and not declawed.

Are they "more important" to me than people? No. Do I take my responsibilities to them seriously? Yes.
__________________
Me: poly bi female, in an "open-but-not-looking" Vee-plus with -
MrS: hetero polyflexible male, live-in husband (together 21+ yrs)
Dude: hetero poly male, live-in boyfriend (together 3+ yrs) and MrS's best friend
Lotus: poly bi female, "it's complicated" relationships with Dude/JaneQ/MrS
TT: poly bi male, married to Lotus, FB with JaneQ
VV and MsJ: bi-women with male primaries, LTR LDR FWBs to JaneQ


My poly blogs on this site:
The Journey of JaneQSmythe
The Notebook of JaneQSmythe

Last edited by JaneQSmythe; 03-02-2012 at 04:54 AM. Reason: accuracy re: breed mixes
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
animals, discussion, humans, importance, pets

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:11 PM.