The Sexual element

[Ceoli]

Originally Posted by SeventhCrow

The problem I have with it is that men who are involved in institutional homosexual relations or those getting sex "on the down low" with other men because they don't have willing female partners don't identify as bisexual--they identify as straight.

Bingo!

[NeonKaos]

Originally Posted by GroundedSpirit

Our only intent in broaching this topic was to try to raise the awareness level, particularly, in the female population, of the true repercussions of their attitudes & actions. To maybe foster a little self analysis by asking the question - "is this the society I would intentionally choose to foster & live in?"



Wish we could see more activity on this topic............

You asked for "activity" and after telling Ceoli to essentially STFU, I'm gonna give you some "activity":

It sounds like what you are saying is that women better start giving their men more sex OR ELSE the men are going to get together and have sex without us.

Thanks for making us "aware" of that.

Ptooey!

[redsirenn]

Originally Posted by Fidelia

Finally, perhaps you might want to spend a little more time reading existing posts here on this forum before you assume the ladies here are generally operating under the enculturation of repression so prevalent in Western society. .... I would say that, in general, we have either shaken off the shackles of repression, are picking the locks now, or at least rattling the chains.

Originally Posted by YGirl

You asked for "activity" and after telling Ceoli to essentially STFU, I'm gonna give you some "activity":

It sounds like what you are saying is that women better start giving their men more sex OR ELSE the men are going to get together and have sex without us.

Thanks for making us "aware" of that.

Ptooey!

Right On.

[NeonKaos]

Originally Posted by GroundedSpirit

Females:
Try to dispose of societal programming about your gender. Embrace the natural sexuality you were gifted with at birth. The term "slut" can well be (and should be) a term of endearment ! A true orgasm (or a few) can be a huge boost to both your physical and emotional health.

What is an orgasm?

Is that the Japanese thing where you fold paper into shapes like birds and fruit and stuff?

[GroundedSpirit]

Hi Everyone,

Thanks again for the comments so far. In hindsight it seems - without this clarification - this was not a productive topic for the readers here. As mentioned in a later post - which so far only a couple people seem to have picked up on - the topic was really intended for a larger group. People who are already poly or poly minded have searched themselves to a degree for answers.
The hope in posting was that other members may have had some of these discussions with their mono friends and could weigh in on how some of those conversations went. Redsirenn - thanks for your sharing. (sorry - haven't figured out the Quote thing yet)
Lets all just hope that the subject of Poly as a possible viable solution to some age old problems continues to spread to the mainstream.
{{{{{Hugs}}}} to all

[Ilove2men]

I guess without viagra all women in their golden years would switch to being les since their husbands can't get it up. Oh wait according to this we are happy just being emotionally satisfied.

Ever heard of the angry vagina? Woman are just as much if not more frustrated with men in the sac. Maybe these men who are so frustrated with woman need to improve their skills.

I think its a big insult to the gay and bi sexual community to think that men are "settling". From my experience with my gay male friends they have super high standards so who in their right mind (besides someone in prison) would think that they would have a better chance of getting laid with a man.

Its an insult to men in general actually. That they have no self control and will screw anything that is available regardless of if the person is their type. And that they don't have the will power to continue to search out the ones they seek to share their life with. It reaks of laziness.

So if even gay men won't have sex with a particular frustrated person, is beastiality the next resort? I'm sorry I like my men to have self control and standards. Excuse my vulgarity, but if you can't get me wet that's your issue not mine because contrary to what men who don't know how to please women believe women LOVE sex. Ever heard of a little thing called she's just not that into you?

[redpepper]

Originally Posted by GroundedSpirit

Ok Ceoli,
This rant is starting to be a disservice to the readers. We're not going to get any other feedback if it continues so.........
We'll give you your points on scientific validity (never the intention anyway) but ding you points on your "confirmation bias" theory. Totally familiar with that and definitely not the case.
But again, Nuff said. Be happy to continue the debate/clarification in some other way, but feel it's unfair to the readers to continue it here. We believe our email is public here (?) so feel free if it really means that much to you.
In the meantime - lets hear it from others ...............

How many of you ladies have had serious, heartfelt discussions with your mono minded friends and what - if anything- would it have taken to get them to really sit down and analyze their options and choices ?

Are you fucking serious?!

LOL

I can't even go on reading from here without expressing how rude I thought you just were to Ceoli! She had some valid points that she has taken the time to express, where I, personally couldn't be bothered to.

Ah, no.... I think this "rant" can continue on quite nicely here as far as I'm concerned. I have no objection and actually CAN be bothered to read it now that Ceoli has quite nicely put into words almost exactly what I was thinking and couldn't be bothered to say.

now I will continue reading as I am sure there will be something more I will want to say....

[Fidelia]

Originally Posted by redsirenn

Right On.

[MonoVCPHG]

I must have missed something here... I thought this was a poly forum? I simply think this whole thread has been misdirected in audience.

I'm sorry but this topic seems to have come from a place of "personal" frustrations and not the frustration of men in general. I'll be honest again. I have several mono male friends that complain about being frustrated because they can't get women to date and certainly fuck. News flash to them...you have to get outside in the world, take care of yourself, and inevitably engage real people to form real relationships. This might be a total tangent, but I see a whole stream of men complaining about things they will never achieve locked in their apartments with the latest add on to World of Warcraft, Doritos colored fingers, and walls of pop cans blocking the sun from hitting their pasty faces. What kind of profile pic is that?!

In general, we are the ones to blame for not finding what we need, not "circumstance" or female disinterest.

Women seem to know how to find the men they want and are willing to work on themselves to do it...it's about time some men figure that out.

Disclaimer - This comment was in no way an attack on gamers...I used to be a total gamer too..even before computers

Peace and love
Mono

[redpepper]

Oh this has got my heart pumping...

First off, I am so glad to see that the women on this forum have largely come together to express much of what I would... Thanks to them for that!

My husband and I were on an online dating site last year and notice similar bisexual curiosity in some men also. We even dated one and he discovered that, BINGO, he is not bi at all, but was just that, curious and straight. We also noticed that there were a lot of bi-curious women AND a lot of cheating men and women. SO WHAT! IT'S A DATING SIGHT! of course you will find that there....

I agree, it's an insult to all men and women that you make the accusation that women aren't putting out enough and that men have resorted to each other to get their needs met...! I thought by saying that my libido happens to be high and that I put out ALOT! That I made MY point clear that women DO LOVE SEX! Enough to have more than one partner sometimes!