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Old 11-25-2013, 06:26 AM
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Question What ever happened to "Gals"?~

What ever happened to "Gals"?~

"Girls" having its' origins in meaning a "young, usually immature, unripe, naive, female" usually most commonly in referrence to children has been popular throughout the pre-50's, 50's, and beyond as a form of sexual discrimination and as a self-identity as a "female who is free from marriage or very spontaneous or youthful".~

"Women" as the opposite of "Girls" has been associated with "maturity, knowledge, wise, grown, ripe" but it also has been associated with "old or almost dead, old-fashioned, no fun" especially in today's generation.~

My question is: "Guys" is often used as a catch-all phrase for all "males" regardless of age or nature, what ever happened to the usage of its' "female" equivalent "Gals"?~
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:12 AM
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People wanted to stop referring to grown women as children. Guys isn't a variant of boys like gals is q varient of girls.
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Old 11-25-2013, 02:47 PM
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In New England, "guys" also tends to be a catch-all type of phrase, somewhat similar to the South's "y'all". But I digress.

How about "ladies"? I tend to use that one.
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Lady is a loaded word though. Women is PC.
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Old 11-25-2013, 03:53 PM
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And the funny thing is, it's mostly colloquialisms anyway. My female friends and I use "ladies" among ourselves (some use "gals" or call each other "doll" or "chick" once in a while). There's an email thread among us with the subject of "Girls' Night Out" right now.

So... I don't know. The words we use change depending on what location we're in, what generation we're from, what group of people we're in, etc. "Gals" sounds funny to me, personally, so that's why *I* won't use it. I'd rather just go with the flow and use the words people are comfortable with, since they aren't personally important enough to me (in this case) for me to weigh in heavily either way.
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Gal isn't a word in my vocabulary. I have never heard anyone called "gal".. might be southern thing or something. In fact, I have only ever read the word, I don't think I have ever heard it verbalized..

"Guys" doesn't feel like it relates to gals. If we had a wordsmith in the group, I think it might be more regional.

My female friends call themselves chicks, girls, women.. people.. label doesn't mean much to them..
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Old 11-27-2013, 08:36 PM
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In New England, "guys" also tends to be a catch-all type of phrase, somewhat similar to the South's "y'all". But I digress.

How about "ladies"? I tend to use that one.
Same here. Men are guys or "you guys" is both sexes and women I call ladies.
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Well for what it's worth, I still use "guys" and "gals" ... though it doesn't jar me too much to say "guys" and "girls" ... even "boys" and "girls." Yes, I do believe men are sometimes referred to (and even refer to themselves) as "boys" (while admitting some men take the moniker "boy" as an insult).

They say pick an age you like and stick to it.

Re: boy = slave? Certainly used to ... Well, BDSM slaves get their night out once in awhile, don't they?

Guys' night out? Boys' night out? I think you could say either and get away with it ...

I admit "gals' night out" sounds awkward. No idea why.

Anyway, who can measure exactly how popular/unpopular guy, gal, girl, and boy is? I admit it seems like "gal" has slid down somewhat in popularity, but that's virtually just intuition on my part. I actually don't think it's slid down all *that* much. I always think of "gal" when I think of "guy."

Although, it's also true that "guys" is often used nowadays to denote a group of people of either or both genders. I do it. [shrug] The odd unpredictable evolution of language marches on. Note that this evolution doesn't always follow a logical path. People change; nations change; the world changes. With changes come "that awkward stage of" growing pains.

Re (from YouAreHere):
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"Maybe language will turn around again and it'll be in favor once more. Who knows?"
Who indeed!

Everyone must use whatever terms/language feels most comfortable to theirselves at their particular times and contexts. How we speak is part of our style; ergo, a swatch of our personality.

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"Hm. I would be troubled to be addressed by a number of words on that list that aren't flagged as offensive. Is 'Bint' is ever not used as a slur?"
Aha! Bad Wikisaurus, very very bad.

Outside that boo-boo, I think Wikisaurus mostly meant to show what synonyms *can* be used; not necessarily which synonyms *should* be used.

Re: gender-neutral pronouns ... always a safe bet for any occasion. But since I'm too sexy for my shirt, I'd proably walk into a bar and say, "Ladies." "Hey hey don't fight, there's enough of me to go around."

Re: dudette ... Oxford Dictionary word? Probably not. Wiktionary word? Yep (though it's uncertain if dudette would work as an interjection). Hey at least I didn't have to get street dirty and ping Urban Dictionary for the info.

Re: wicked ... gnarly's good too!

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"It tends to make sense that I'd grab bits and pieces that work in different situations. "
IMO, the English language is practically defined as a mass of bits and pieces we've grabbed that work in different situations.

No doubt English's millions (billions?) of dialects and dialectal variations vary from State to State, town to town, and person to person.

Interesting future prospect: Our great-great-great-great grandkids may end up speaking a mishmash of languages all rolled into one. Say 40% English, 30% Spanish, 20% Chinese, and 10% Jive.

Re: doll ... Wikisaurus missed that one! Oh the shame of it.

I admit I kind of think of "gal" as a word a Westerner (especially a cowboy) would use. (But I'm still comfortable using it, maybe because my folks and uncles and stuff were.)

Hey ... let's not forget "my brothers and my sisters." It's not just for church anymore!

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"It is one thing to be belittled and patronized by being called a girl by men, it is another thing to feel enjoyably youthful when women bond with their female friends and call them girls."
Ah, again ... a datapoint that how I'm treated (and how safe I feel) influences how I'll feel about what I'm called. Hell me and the guys call each other "pigs" all the time and we think it's hilarious.

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"Try this on: my girlfriend and I sleep and have sex together in the "master" bedroom. Should we call it the "mistress" bedroom?"
Heheh.

I don't think galroom would work though. (Gal bedroom? Hmmmm -- )
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Old 11-30-2013, 10:31 AM
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Kevin, beautiful post.~

What about what is appropriate in a "professional" work place?~

Personally I think "boys and girls" and "guys and gals" are not "professional" and take on a whole new meaning in the work place than they often do "outside" the work place.~

I noticed one time at a DEP meeting for the military I was attending as a DEP'er that one the recruiters used the term "girls" to refer to the only female there.~

I asked to speak to him afterwards and informed him that referring to women in a "professional" workplace especially the military as "girls" is grounds for "sexual discrimination" for some and even though some might find it endearing others might not and the military takes any thing "sexual related" very seriously at least that's what they have been telling me so far.~

I told him I usually refer to them as "young women".~

The situation was particularly a social error, because it took place within a military recruiting office and from what I've learned so far: they want to be especially "politically correct" because they are the public "face" of their particular military branch.~

No harm was done I hope, the recruiter in question was very tired as it was from his wife having baby so maybe he was slipping a little, and I probably won't know if the female DEP'er took offence to it as she shipped out the next day.~
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I don't think galroom would work though. (Gal bedroom? Hmmmm -- )
Well, we call our femininely decorated basement family room with our huge projector HDTV our "girl cave." Ironically.
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