Polyamory.com Forum  

Go Back   Polyamory.com Forum > Polyamory > Poly Relationships Corner

Notices

View Poll Results: Spiritual or Scientific?
Male, and I believe in endless love (Spiritual) 1 4.76%
Female, and I believe in boundless love (Spiritual) 6 28.57%
Male, and it all makes sense (Scientific) 11 52.38%
Female, just fuck me already, idiot! (Scientific) 3 14.29%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-04-2011, 01:47 AM
MisogynisticFeminazi MisogynisticFeminazi is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6
Default Poll: If polyamorous, are you spiritual or scientific?

Just doing some self-discovery and some research. This is a question for EVERYONE to whom polyamory is intuitive, practitioners or philosophers.

I believe that people drift to what feels most natural to them. But I also believe that including in-between poll options would be silly, because those votes would cancel themselves out.

I don't believe that gender is black-and-white, easily defined. But I do believe in keeping things simple. This is the only reason for why there are no options for the transgendered, asexual, etc.

If you don't feel comfortable voting without more details, ask away!

I have a feeling about the direction the answers will take, but the only way to test this theory is with a poll.
__________________
There's no such thing as a lovable asshole. Either you're an asshole because you're loved by everyone, or you're loved by everyone because you're an asshole.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-04-2011, 03:26 AM
nycindie's Avatar
nycindie nycindie is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Big Apple
Posts: 8,449
Default

Can you explain better what it is you're looking for with this poll? Are you trying to find out if people here view poly as an either or thing? Sex vs. love? How are you defining "endless love" and "boundless love" (and how do you see those two things as different from each other?) for "Spiritual," and what is the "all of it" that makes sense to the "Scientific" male? And what do you mean by "polyamory is intuitive?" This is confusing. Neither the poll nor your post make any sense to me, I'm sorry to say.
__________________
The world opens up... when you do.

"Oh, oh, can't you see? Love is the drug for me." ~Bryan Ferry
"Love and the self are one . . ." ~Leo Buscaglia "

An excellent blog post on hierarchy in polyamory:
solopoly.net/2014/10/31/why-im-not-a-secondary-partner-the-short-version/

Last edited by nycindie; 11-04-2011 at 03:35 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-04-2011, 03:36 AM
MisogynisticFeminazi MisogynisticFeminazi is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6
Default

nycindie,

I'm going to guess you're a little bit empathetic to both sides. I can send you a private message if you'd like, letting you know what my suspicions are. I'm only slightly concerned that by posting here what I'm trying to get at will influence the answer of people.

It's not a perfect process anyway, but closer is still better than far away.
__________________
There's no such thing as a lovable asshole. Either you're an asshole because you're loved by everyone, or you're loved by everyone because you're an asshole.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-04-2011, 03:43 AM
nycindie's Avatar
nycindie nycindie is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Big Apple
Posts: 8,449
Default

Don't categorize me as anything. I'm not empathetic to either side -- I don't understand what these sides are! I have no clue what you mean by scientific vs. spiritual and how that relates to poly... in what? Attitude? Approach? Philosophy? How do you define "spiritual" and "scientific" in the first place? Do you want to know what we think polyamory is? Are you seeing poly as an orientation or a structure for relationships? Really, this poll and your wording are both about as clear as mud to me, so I can't answer. Sorry.
__________________
The world opens up... when you do.

"Oh, oh, can't you see? Love is the drug for me." ~Bryan Ferry
"Love and the self are one . . ." ~Leo Buscaglia "

An excellent blog post on hierarchy in polyamory:
solopoly.net/2014/10/31/why-im-not-a-secondary-partner-the-short-version/

Last edited by nycindie; 11-04-2011 at 04:06 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-04-2011, 03:44 AM
SilentPain SilentPain is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Central Coast, CA
Posts: 3
Default

I'm female, but I don't think love is boundless, nor is my way of poly a "just fuck me already" way. It's not about the sex at all to me. *shrugs*

I dunno where I fall on your poll because although I am female the "it all makes sense" male option is what suits me best.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-04-2011, 03:47 AM
MichelleZed MichelleZed is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 194
Default

This poll is very silly. Whether someone is science-positive or not has nothing to do with how much sex they want to have, for example, or whether they fall in love easily or not.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-04-2011, 04:04 AM
MisogynisticFeminazi MisogynisticFeminazi is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6
Default

nycindie, (female)

Your roar has been duly noted. I think you're fluid in the sense that you can discuss things logically, and feel them in a more spiritual sense (if you have to choose either of the two words to describe).

By the way, I love your signature: If you expect your relationships to bring you happiness, you will be disappointed. Bring your own happiness to your relationships and everyone will thrive.

If I had to paraphrase, I'd say "Love doesn't give happiness, but the happy give love."

SilentPain, (female)

I'm making no this-is-how-it-is remarks. But for my own records, I'm putting you more in the spiritual category. Thank you for your contribution.

MichelleZed, (female? just double-checking. Michelle sounds female to me)

Bold statement, but only a scientific approach would be able to prove or disprove that. I'm going to note that you're leaning towards the scientific. Again, purely for my own purposes. Don't mind me.
__________________
There's no such thing as a lovable asshole. Either you're an asshole because you're loved by everyone, or you're loved by everyone because you're an asshole.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-04-2011, 04:08 AM
nycindie's Avatar
nycindie nycindie is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Big Apple
Posts: 8,449
Default

Oh, I wasn't roaring. I was just asking for clarification. I suspect tomorrow you will have some more comments and questions. I hope the poll gives you what you want.
__________________
The world opens up... when you do.

"Oh, oh, can't you see? Love is the drug for me." ~Bryan Ferry
"Love and the self are one . . ." ~Leo Buscaglia "

An excellent blog post on hierarchy in polyamory:
solopoly.net/2014/10/31/why-im-not-a-secondary-partner-the-short-version/
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-07-2011, 06:07 AM
cheryl cheryl is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28
Default

Well you must admit your poll assumes that spiritual and scientific are some how mutually exclusive or dont overlap. Whether you're a scientist or a philosopher, you have to define your terms -what you mean by spiritual and scientific. The way your poll reads, you don't mean either. You seem to mean physical vs. emotional.

So what are you asking:
Are people poly because they believe it is more compatible with our biological instincts?
Are people poly because it gives them certain social or economic advantages, such as not trashing a marriage, disrupting a family unit, or selling a house?
Are people poly because they realize life is finite and don't want to miss out on certain life experiences?
Are people poly because having more than one person makes them feel more emotionally secure?

What is it you want to find out?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-07-2011, 02:50 PM
MisogynisticFeminazi MisogynisticFeminazi is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6
Default

So far, with only 13 votes, the results are inconclusive at best.

However, there's still an interesting bias showing up. Only one male chose spiritual. Most females chose spiritual, and most males chose scientific.

Does this reveal much? No. And the first post mentions as such.

For example, a poll asking "Would you prefer to be partnered up with somebody physically attractive, OR would you prefer to be partnered up with somebody intellectually stimulating?" would not answer the question of whether or not people, in general, prefer a nice mixture of those two feats.

But if such poll did show a strong bias, it would be interesting to note, at the least. If such poll was, let's say, expanded to include options for men and women, and then showed an unambiguous bias, the results would further be interesting.

I came in with the assumption that polyamorous people are just like all other people: subject to the same forces of nature. What the results are currently leaning towards is that males either are, or prefer to be, objective, etc., and that females either are, or prefer to be, emotional, etc.

If indicative of any truths, the results are only something worth noting. They are not hard-and-fast rules, and to follow them blindly would carry much peril.

On another note, I find it interesting that not everybody voted. The prevailing reason given by those who've commented was the refusal to be neatly grouped into a category, further to be dissected by somebody of no consequence.

I hope this answers a question or two.
__________________
There's no such thing as a lovable asshole. Either you're an asshole because you're loved by everyone, or you're loved by everyone because you're an asshole.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
opinion, research

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:56 PM.