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Old 08-04-2009, 01:38 AM
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There was one part that bothered me because I fear it is true:

Conservatives are not alone in watching warily. Gay-marriage advocates have become leery of public association with the poly causeŚlest it give their enemies ammunition. As Andrew Sullivan, the Atlantic columnist, wrote recently, "I believe that someone's sexual orientation is a deeper issue than the number of people they want to express that orientation with." In other words, polyamory is a choice; homosexuality is not. It's these dynamics that have made polyamory, as longtime poly advocate Anita Wagner puts it, "the political football in the culture war as it relates to same-sex marriage."

I am a big gay marriage advocate. I even write an occasional article for my local newspaper arguing againt prop 8 (California anti-gay marriage proposition) as well as other religiously inspired intolerant treatment of minorities.

One of my points is that gay marriage should have been decided way back when interracial marriage was legalized. I even say that all the arguments that were against interracial marriage are being used against gay marriage. I had several black people write me and say that gay marriage is completely different from interracial marriage but they could not tell me how. They could not also give me a reason why gay marriage should be illegal that is not a reason to make interracial marriage illegal.

So I see blacks gaining their rights and ignoring homosexuals. And I am afraid I will see homosexuals get their rights and ignore polyamorists. Will we continue this trend and ignore the next group that is seeking their rights? I am not sure who that will be? Maybe the furries? Either way, I hope that as a group we stick with the philosophy that activities are ok as long as they have the full knowledge and consent of all involved adults.
I'm with you on the fact that marriage between two people of the same sex is very much like interracial marriage conflicts - I really hate how people use religious texts to try to justify thier positions, especially when in the lines above and below them have other rules that no longer apply to society today in any way shape or form.

Personally, I think "marriage" shouldn't even be a legal term, as so many people claim is "sacred" and "religious". People, straight or gay, should get a legal civil union in city hall, then get a "marriage" at the church of their choosing, if that's what they so greatly desire. Priests shouldnt be able to perform any legal matters... separation of church and state right?

As for polyamory or polygamy, perhaps what should be done legally should be different - I think having some sort of way to make parenting and hospital visitation easier for groups who are committed to each other should be made available for these sorts of situations, especially now that this is becoming an increasingly common practice. Maybe civil unions or partnerships, sort of like businesses, only meant for families or communal groups.

Lol, as a furry, I dont really thing there's much to do with rights or no rights - since it's totally legal to marry whether or not you are one. (Though if you're talking about bestiality, thats a totally separate issue)
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