Im trying, Im doing a lot of research and trying to deal with some long buried emotion. I was beat pretty significantly as a child by my step father. He always said "I can make you cry!"....and Im so hard headed, that I decided that noone could ever make me cry. (you see how patient my husband has had to be this last 39 years

) But I certainly appreciate everyone's input, sometimes we get so self involved we need to talk to others, however this subject isnt just something you can bring up everyday!...thanks again