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Old 10-17-2012, 01:13 AM
JaneQSmythe JaneQSmythe is offline
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What I am going to say has largely been said already - but I'll add my slant.

I have hearing two different things from his side here:

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Originally Posted by LovelyLove View Post
He said that it is all too much for him. His parents living here (they don't know anything), my husband, our children. He said that he feels that he's being dealt a bad hand if we get involved and he gets emotionally attached and then I can go home to my husband every night (and he gets to go home to his parents ). He feels he gets left with nothing but borrowed affection. I guess he is basically saying that if he can't get the whole package, then he doesn't want anything.
VS.

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Originally Posted by LovelyLove View Post
He said he's still like to go out with me, like dancing and drinking beer. I said that I wouldn't be able to keep my hands off him if we did, and he said that he could live with that, with that lovely smile of his on his lips.
The first part sounds like a "NO" to something and the second part sounds like a "YES" to something else. So you need to clarify with him what you are offering and what he is, and is NOT, accepting.

When I first got together with Dude - I withheld myself emotionally, because my feeling was that we would enjoy each other for a time but that he would want to go off and find a "primary" of his own (who, I assumed, would demand that he cut things off with me). That I was a temporary girlfriend until a "real girl" came along, and I felt I needed to be braced for that.

Dude really had to work with me there - to open up to him and the possibility that he really may be here for the long haul. He says that while he intends to pursue other relationships in the future that a tolerance of his continued relationship with me is a requirement. (Obviously the "shape" of our relationship will have to adjust considerably - I don't know how many people can fit in one king-size bed!)


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Originally Posted by LovelyLove View Post
Is he right in saying that he is not getting as much as he deserves? That I cannot give him as much as he's worth?
I don't think it is a matter of what someone "deserves". You can give him only what you have to offer. He gets to decide whether it is worth it to him on those terms. He can choose to say "all or nothing" - it which case he gets "nothing" because you have a hard-line that you are not leaving your husband. He can choose to counter with a offer of "NSA sex and/or FWB" until his "primary" comes along - and you can choose whether his counter-offer is acceptable to you. And endless variations...

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Originally Posted by LovelyLove View Post
Is that what it is to be the second person in a V where there is a clear primary couple?
I think it depends entirely on the individuals making up the Vee. MrS and I are the visible clear primary couple - we are legally married and present to the world as a couple. (see many discussions about "couple privilege" here and elsewhere to see the benefits of this to the couple and the disadvantages to the "other") Legally, he is my next of kin (and I trust him implicitly to make decisions "in my name") and listed as a beneficiary on my life insurance, etc.

On the other hand, on a day-to-day living-our-lives together level (i.e. if you were a fly on the wall of our house) - I'm not sure that things are quite so lopsided - they see me the same amount of time (i.e. when we are home), they have the same daily financial support (i.e. I pay all of our bills), Dude gets more sex (because he is hornier), MrS and I connect on deeper levels (having to do with being together for 2 decades), etc.

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I don't know, at this stage of the game, that you can predict the "shape" of things to come. That depends on all of your relationships with each other and how they grow and evolve over time. I think all you can do at this point is see if there is an intersection of what you are willing to consider in relation to the other...and see where it goes from there.

Jane("My-Two-Cents")Q
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MrS: hetero polyflexible male, live-in husband (together 21+ yrs)
Dude: hetero poly male, live-in boyfriend (together 3+ yrs) and MrS's best friend
Lotus: poly bi female, "it's complicated" relationships with Dude/JaneQ/MrS
TT: poly bi male, married to Lotus, FB with JaneQ
VV and MsJ: bi-women with male primaries, LTR LDR FWBs to JaneQ


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Last edited by JaneQSmythe; 10-17-2012 at 01:25 AM. Reason: puntuation and, hopefully, some clarity
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