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Old 04-02-2012, 10:54 PM
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Well the problem I have with using the bible as reference to encourage any standard of behavior is that it is treated like it floated down on the wings of some supernatural being and therefore nothing bad could possibly be found within it. Yet it, and many other religious texts, have been responsible for more bloodshed than can be quantified.
Some have tried; the numbers are pretty large. That being said, I think that humanity as a whole is better off with christianity then without it. I think people don't stop to consider what we'd have had if christianity hadn't become the predominant world religion. Its main competition (Islam) is, in my view, generally worse.

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Prior to its creation, christian texts had been hunted and burned.
I find that to actually be one of the most encouraging aspects of christianity. The notion that self sacrifice can be a good thing is also something I respect.

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Of what was left, later, was picked through by a committe[e] hired by a ruler who wished to appeal to many religions at once in effort to create an army from divided people. Why should anything within be used to persuade, guilt, or control anyone to do something they don't want to do? It would be like using V.C. Andrews novels all mashed up into one book thousands of years from now to tell people how they should live.
I think there is some truth in what you say. That being said, I also think that there are some historical references in the bible; the truth may frequently be distorted to a great degree, but I do believe there is some truth in there. As to the committee you mention, I believe you're referring to the First Council of Nicea. After reading The Da Vinci Code and then seeing the film adaptation of said book, I decided to go further, to the main book it was based on, Holy Blood, Holy Grail. They all mention the Council of Nicea, but only after looking at the wikipedia entry did I find this interesting piece of information:
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The biblical canon
Main article: Development of the Christian biblical canon
A number of erroneous views have been stated regarding the council's role in establishing the biblical canon. In fact, there is no record of any discussion of the biblical canon at the council at all.[54][55] The development of the biblical canon took centuries, and was nearly complete (with exceptions known as the Antilegomena, written texts whose authenticity or value is disputed) by the time the Muratorian fragment was written.[56] In 331 Constantine commissioned fifty Bibles for the Church of Constantinople, but little else is known, though it has been speculated that this may have provided motivation for canon lists. In Jerome's Prologue to Judith[57][58][59] he claims that the Book of Judith was "found by the Nicene Council to have been counted among the number of the Sacred Scriptures".
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I also come from a baptist family. You sound like you had a much better situation than what I experienced.
Who are you speaking to?

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I have family that feel women should be educated at a bare minimum and then home school their own daughters with what scant knowledge they acquired prior to marriage while their sons go the full 12 years to public school. I at least did get to go to school, but hard science was frowned on even by my immediate family.
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