My husband and I started in the Swingers lifestyle about 10 months and are having a great time. About 4 months ago we met a couple whom we all four clicked with instantly. We have been seeing them now probably 15 or more occasions and have been in a sexual relationship all along. Now that we are getting more comfortable I and my husband have become very bonded to this couple, and they have hinted (in a casual way so it is hard to tell their level of seriousness or even a sense of urgency) that they would be comfortable with having a deeper relationship. "I could totally see us dating you guys". Examples include suggesting weekend sleepiness at their home, in their bed; letting us know that we are their favorite play couple; my husband having his first bisexual relationship with the husband; suggesting planning parties and vacations together, a handful of times where I went on a semi date without the husband it wife (with permission!); pet names, etc. This couple is also extremely flaky and hard to nail down plans with. They have probably 10+ other play partners, and are aware we still play with others as well. We backed off a fee months ago, and when we saw each other at the same club I was upfront about sensing that they were backing away, for whatever reason, and that it was fine. That I valued them as people more than FWB so I still wanted to spend time together. They were dumbfounded, assured us that was not the case at all, and said they would do their best to do their eat to be more available. So far, not much improvement but there is effort. A bit. I still feel that we are chasing them harder than they are excited about seeing us.
Now that you have some back story, I realize that we are new to open relationships, so I wanted to know if this is a normal level for swinging relationships, and if so am I possibly reading too much into these normal getting to be comfortable with a long term couple. Also, if it isn't typical, how do we go about navigating the first quad relationship landmines that could screw up a great thing. Does "date you guys" mean see each other more often and keep the emotions casual, or deepen the emotions as the course of the relationship unfolds?
We had no idea just opening up would be so complex, but this couple is so good for us, physically, as people we also value in our lives, socially. I don't want to read too far into this and ruin things.
Are you wanting to change this particular relationship with this couple from a swinging thing to a polyship?
If so, ASK.
And if they are willing, let them know what your wants, needs, and limits are in a polyship. Ask them what their wants, needs, and limits are in a polyship.
Maybe they want to have a serious polyship with you, but be OPEN to swing still on the side. Maybe they will only polyship if all are CLOSED. Are you willing to stop swinging if so? There's a lot of "maybe" to discern and get nailed down.
So if a polyship is what you want with them now, you have to ask them directly if they want that too. You cannot mind reader them, they cannot mind reader you.
What quad landmines are you worried about?
"I want more time and attention from you because I would like to develop and grow a polyship with you."
Or could they still think it is at the place of
"I want more time and attention from you because I like to swing with you."
Time doesn't appear from the sky. People MAKE the time to spend in cultivating relationships. Maybe they figure the time they spend on cultivating your swingship is plenty and don't realize you now want to cultivate a polyship.
So... speak up. That's the only way to know for sure -- you ASK them and they respond so you can KNOW. If they are not up for a polyship, they just are not up for it. Accept it. Then choose the new behavior. Keep swinging after knowing this new info, stop swinging with them after knowing this new info, or swing at a less frequency, or something else. YOU choose how to behave.
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