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River 09-20-2011 11:39 PM

In The News
This thread is for posting and discussing news stories related to either polyamory, intimate relationships, sexuality (e.g., LGBT issues), or related themes.


DADT (Don't Ask Don't Tell), the US military policy which disallowed openly gay/lesbian involvement in the US military, has finally been officially repealed today. It is over.

I'd never consider being in the US military, myself. But I'm happy to see this landmark event in equal treatment of gay and lesbian and bisexual people.

PS - Clicking on Tags > newspapers reveals pre-existing threads on news, however, these threads are on polyamory in the news. I thought we could benefit from a thread which explicitly allows postings on related matters. Example: LGBT matters in the news. LGBT matters are relevant here (a) because many regulars in this forum are themselves LGBT folks and (b) because LGBT folks and poly folks are often treated as outcasts and outsiders in society. Marginalized, if you will. Obviously, other topics will also be of interest for similar kinds of reasons.

Perhaps none of the many LGBT folks in here have responded to the above news item because the ending of DADT feels like a sort of pyrrhic victory, a step "forward" which seems to amount to nothing more than providing yet more cannon fodder for a misused military? I get that. If that's the reason. Still, I feel glad that yet another artifact of bigotry has fallen by the wayside. It feels like a necessary step toward us queer folk being ... well, just people. Regular folk.

nycindie 09-21-2011 10:51 PM

Hey River, just wondering... if you want this thread to be about news, maybe it belongs in the "Press and media coverage" forum.

River 09-22-2011 01:39 AM


Originally Posted by nycindie (Post 103227)
Hey River, just wondering... if you want this thread to be about news, maybe it belongs in the "Press and media coverage" forum.

Isn't that forum devoted mainly to polyamory, per se? Whereas this thread is broader and more general in emphasis.

Of course, this thread may not catch on in either location. It's a test run.

If people decide in a considered way to move the thread, that's fine. I like it here for now. But I'm open to reasoned responses to your question. It may be a better home over there--who knows?

River 06-27-2015 01:38 AM

Gay marriage declared legal across the US in historic supreme court ruling

This is a dramatic shift in legal and political history in the USA. It had to be mentioned here.


In a related story...

"One of the US supreme court justices who found themselves on the opposite side of Friday’s historic endorsement of same-sex marriage has warned that the ruling will be used to “vilify Americans who are unwilling to assent to the new orthodoxy”, a group he said now faced being “labeled as bigots”.

Justice Samuel Alito said the ruling could leave the country suffering from “bitter and lasting wounds” in a dissenting opinion that veered away from legal argument, and head-first into political and cultural commentary.

“I assume that those who cling to old beliefs will be able to whisper their thoughts in the recesses of their homes, but if they repeat those views in public, they will risk being labeled as bigots and treated as such by governments, employers and schools,” he wrote."


Isn't that just terrible! Imagine, those poor people will be picked on, abused, badmouthed, ridiculed, marginalized.... So very sad, isn't it?

kdt26417 06-27-2015 02:10 AM

"No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice, and family. In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than once they were. As some of the petitioners in these cases demonstrate, marriage embodies a love that may endure even past death. It would misunderstand these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage. Their plea is that they do respect it, respect it so deeply that they seek to find its fulfillment for themselves. Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization's oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right."
-- Justice Anthony Kennedy, Obergefell v. Hodges majority opinion

River 06-27-2015 02:35 AM

Only a very few years ago this Supreme Court decision, announced today, was considered a thing never to happen in the lifetimes of my friends who supported the right of all Americans to marry whom they loved. I had thought differently, but that it is now a fact of history is, for me, a rare piece of unusually good news about this country (the USA). I'm not exactly proud of America, generally. But I am proud about this. And happy.

Perhaps one day people will be able to legally marry all of their loved ones, if they so wish?

Leetah 06-27-2015 05:52 AM

The Onion weighs in.


River 06-27-2015 06:42 PM

While the Onion piece is fiction, I bet that movie probably will be made. :)

River 06-27-2015 11:18 PM

This isn't a news story, exactly. But the topic is newsworthy -- and somewhat current.



FallenAngelina 06-27-2015 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by River (Post 300731)
..... the ruling will be used to “vilify Americans who are unwilling to assent to the new orthodoxy”, a group he said now faced being “labeled as bigots”.

I think they already are labled as bigots, but as you say - boo hoo for them.

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