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Spork 07-12-2016 05:23 PM

Astrology
 
I wanna talk about it!!

I know lots of people think it's a bunch of baloney. I don't blame you, because it seems like superstitious nonsense to me if I think about it in a certain light.

I've had to ponder WHY I like astrology. Because I do. I think it's because I like organizing ideas and using symbols and categories and sets of concepts to understand my world and think about people. There are limits to how much belief I'll place in it, and I can't imagine getting SO into it that I'd buy books or learn to chart or pay someone to do my readings or charting or whatever.

I did have a friend who was into doing charts and she did mine. It jived with my own view of myself pretty damn well. I know that most of everything I've ever read about Capricorns feels very true about me, and what I have read or know about other signs does NOT resonate. My moon is in Cancer, and I've got Sagittarius rising.

But...(true to form for my Cappie-ness) I have formed my own opinions about at least one sign that has repeatedly come into my life, and it goes contrary to what I've read about them, but every one I've known well has been this way so I've decided that I'm right and I just go with it. It's a Cappie thing to be kind of a know-it-all like this.

So here is, based on people I know (and I know a lot of people) my opinion on various signs. Because I am bored right now and I feel like sharing it.

Aries are supposed to be the infants of the Zodiac, basically somewhat immature in addition to being warlike. While I'll admit they do have anger issues, I've found I get on with them really well if we're cracking jokes. It's a guarantee when I meet an Aries, that they will LOVE my snarky sense of humor. I've found that they have a serious need to be good and right. If they make a mistake or do something wrong, they beat the crap out of themselves over it. And they tend to form strong romantic attachments that they want to be permanent...but often it doesn't work out (because of the anger issues?) and when it ends, they're broken about it for quite a while.

Taurus I've found to be stubborn, cynical, and occasionally judgmental. Not like they intend to be mean about it, but in just a matter of fact sort of way. They seem to feel they've got a really strong handle on the Way Things Are, and they'd be happy to tell you about it. Some of it is realistic...some maybe a little harsh for my liking. Earth, earth, earth. Solid and well matched with more volatile signs because they ground 'em out. Hefe is a Taurus and he and I both being earthy as we are, I feel like we sometimes GET one another in some pretty neat ways.

Gemini... I've only known a couple very well. Things they had in common... Really drastic and instantaneous mood shifts, truly like they had more than one personality in there that could turn on a dime. And a bizarre need to be in control of a conversation. I've watched a Gemini basically inform an entire room that we would no longer be discussing that particular topic, and put an instant and undisputed stop to it. I've also noticed that they sometimes can justify taking advantage of others, sometimes in really extreme ways, and see nothing whatsoever wrong with what they are doing.

Cancer I LOVE (but then, I love love love water signs anyhow.) They always think I'm really cool! They seem to really want to hear all of my stories, and they feed me validation and I feel so nurtured with them. But I find that Cancer, like Scorpio, in my experience get very focused on one other person at a time. If a Cancer who is my best friend gets in a serious loving relationship, I have to be prepared to lose the friendship, maybe not hear from them for years or ever, even if we used to talk every day. I've learned not to take this personally.

Leo, I can't speak to because I haven't known any well enough.

Virgo, I have a lot of fun with. They are usually the friend who breaks the rules. Since I'm a risk averse and cautious Capricorn, on my own I won't break rules, but Virgo is the perfect person to nudge me into being brave and taking risk. They have a freespirited energy that I find rejuvenating, but they often give wayyy too much of themselves to doing what others seem to expect of them, often putting themselves last. They overcommit their time and resources, and then seem surprised when they don't have enough to give. Virgo needs to learn to stand up for themselves and say "no" once in a while instead of always saying "yes" and then flaking out later.

Libras. I cannot stand them. What I've read is that they are these charismatic and lovable characters who flirt with the world and always find the spotlight...life of the party types. My experience has been that they will latch on and demand to be the center of the universe and everyone's attention. I've known many Libra who were narcissists, of the most unpleasant variety. They are deeply insecure and need constant emotional validation and maintenance. And if they don't get what they demand, they are very sour grapes about the whole thing. "Fine! I didn't want your attentions anyways, I am fine on my own!" No, you're not. Could be that Libra and me is just a terrible combination, maybe they are better for other people. Old Wolf is a Libra, as are several other people I know. I feel so strongly about them that I'd actually reject a potential date just for finding out that they are a Libra. Like, nope, I don't even want the two of us to get to know each other now. Sorry. Good luck. Go away.

Scorpio scare me, but we get along well. I bond well with water signs anyhow. Like Cancer, I see them as devoted partners who do best with one other person in their lives at a given time to whom they devote tremendous energy and focus. The difference is, when things go wrong, a Cancer will go cry about it and a Scorpio will get revenge. I've seen Scorps perpetrate some of the most shocking acts of violence that I have ever witnessed...the wild thing is, they GET AWAY WITH IT! My Mom is a Scorpio.

Sagittarius, my lovely fiery Fire is a Sagittarius, and it is my ascending. I think it's why I come off as exciting and fun when people first meet me, but I feel like a rather boring person underneath that. She on the other hand really is exciting and fun...and mercurial and engaging... But I hesitate to say too much because she is the only Sagittarius I have ever known very well.

I'm a Capricorn, and I am ambitious, risk averse, cautious, somewhat materialistic and very concerned with prestige. I play a long, long game. I'm a skilled manager and administrator. I'm endlessly patient and usually very practical. Some people think that I am cold and reserved. I would agree that I can be. I've found that we're also very methodical. Like the Cap approach to a problem is to create our own whole system for doing it, and then behave as though it's the most brilliant solution ever and follow it for the rest of all time. We feel slightly superior to others, and don't expect them to live up to our standards. Which leads to a big fault of ours, because we are natural leaders...we hate to delegate. It's really hard. We're pretty sure you're gonna mess up whatever we've trusted you to handle, and we feel a need to check and make sure it's done to our specifications. But our methods aren't arbitrary. Ask, we'll explain, there's a totally logical reason behind whatever system we've created.

Aquarius, used to be one of the signs I didn't know well enough to speak to, but in recent years, one after another has come into my life. I have learned the hard way that I probably ought to just give up when it comes to air signs. Either they drive me nuts or we just can't connect, they are always challenging for me. Aquarius seems confused, and not sure what the heck they want, they speak as though they know, but then they demonstrate otherwise. Get all passionate talking about something and then turn around and dive headfirst into the opposite of that, leaving me scratching my head and completely confused. I feel they have a hard time really engaging with me emotionally, too. But also, they seem really lucky and rather charming.

Last but not least, Pisces...Zen is the second Pisces I have come to know, and now that I think about it... In both cases I was not completely won over at first sight, but upon getting to know these two people and explore the depths of their character, I got incredibly close to them both. What deep people with such fascinating interests and personality facets! They like me and I like them, but unlike the other water signs I feel that they are better at being social than Cancer or Scorpio.

To come to even more basic symbology, I can sum up how I feel about signs based on elements.

Earth: Basic and sensual, appreciative of fine quality, tend to be rather stubborn. I think sometimes we have too much of a tendency to nurse unspoken resentments. We aren't necessarily confrontational...more like quietly stubborn.

Air: Flighty, contradictory and confusing. Smart! But there's a certain thing of processing people as IDEAS and not as PEOPLE there. I find it incredibly hard to do relationships with air signs. It's like we connect, but only to a point and no further.

Fire: Passionate and exciting! Funny! But also rather moody. Can be destructive when their emotions get control of their actions, and usually regret it deeply once the conflagration has burned itself out.

Water: My emotional self is water-ish, and I fall in love with water signs whether as best friends or...in Zen's case...lovers. I love their approach to sex. I love how appreciated and nurtured they make me feel. Some of my favorite people ever have been water signs.

Inyourendo 07-12-2016 05:53 PM

I did my chart and my friend's and it's pretty spot on for both of us. I'm a libra sun, virgo moon, and cancer rising and she is an a Aquarius sun, Sagittarius moon, and Pisces rising.

my favorite signs are Libra, Sagittarius, Aquarius, Aries, Gemini, and Leo for both friendship and romance.

I love this site http://astrology-numerology.com/sun-moon.html

My 11 year is a double Gemini and it totally makes sense why he is how he is.

Spork 07-12-2016 06:43 PM

My ex is a triple Libra, and oddly he bears no resemblance to any description I've ever read about Libra anywhere. Including that site you linked.

But there will always be bizarre outliers perhaps...?

Mine was spot on.

kdt26417 07-12-2016 06:48 PM

Scorpio here. You've been warned ... :cool:

Spork 07-12-2016 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kdt26417 (Post 331730)
Scorpio here. You've been warned ... :cool:

Now, now. You and I could probably have a great conversation, and you'd probably give me very interesting advice. Just warn me if you get angry at someone, so I can get out of the blast radius, huh?

:p

kdt26417 07-12-2016 09:45 PM

;)

icesong 07-13-2016 12:44 AM

There was a point in my life where I was *very* into astrology.

For the record, I'm Cancer with Cancer Ascendent and either a Cancer or Leo moon (I remember calculating it and having it come out Triple C; if I look now it comes out Moon in Leo). I'm not nearly as much of a homebody as that would indicate, though.

Anyway, Knight is Capricorn with Cancer rising; Artist is Cancer with Cancer Rising. So there's something to the compatibility there, perhaps...?

Magdlyn 07-13-2016 11:44 AM

I'm a Leo, miss pixi is a Leo, my ex husband is a Leo, and my son is a Leo. Rawr. I am a classic Leo, look up the qualities, I've got all of them. A leader, supportive, generous, too much hair on my head. lol Optimistic, opinionated, straightforward, loyal. I love to love, and be loved and admired. I'm like a cat, I can be really lazy, and then spring into an energetic project and give it my all. When I lead, I don't want to do all the work, I like to delegate to people as their skills present them able to do important work.

My younger daughter is a classic Aries. "Ready, fire, aim!" is her way of going.

nycindie 07-15-2016 12:09 PM

Back in the '80s and '90s, I owned and studied quite a lot of books on astrology and learned the basics of how to do charts. I also had my chart done professionally by someone rather highly respected in NYC astrology circles, but I don't put much stock in it anymore. The majority of it is open to interpretation, heavily depends on knowing exact birth times, and I've gotten away from categorizing others the way I used to. Plus, in general, we are so susceptible to suggestion that a focus on things like astrology, enneagrams, Myers-Briggs, and other systems of categorization can get in the way of seeing things clearly (although I think a lot about Love Languages makes sense if not taken too literally).

That being said, a lot of what I learned, read, and experienced when I was very devoted to leearning astrology is still in my head, and my views/general perceptions of the signs are quite different from yours. And keep in mind that the outer planets supposedly influence us a great deal, much more than is often acknowledged.

You might enjoy this old thread: Astrological Compatibility

icesong 07-15-2016 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nycindie (Post 331900)
And keep in mind that the outer planets supposedly influence us a great deal, much more than is often acknowledged.

Ha, given that literally everything in my life, except being married, changed in six months *right* at my Saturn return, I *definitely* acknowledge it. :D


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