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Magdlyn
08-02-2010, 02:05 PM
... of the female kind.
Quotes from the masturbation thread:
And then there's female ejaculation, but that's a whole different discussion entirely...
That could be a 100 page thread all by it's self! LOL
I just received a long write up about that subject. All about HOW to achieve that spectacular event.
Was that a link to a website? Care to share?
The best book I've read on the subject is
Female Ejaculation and the G-Spot: Not Your Mother's Orgasm Book!
http://www.amazon.com/Female-Ejaculation-G-Spot-Mothers-Positively/dp/089793380X/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1280757482&sr=1-4
There is still way too much denial out there that women can ejaculate. Even in books on how to give women great orgasms, some will downplay the g-spot or deny it exists entirely.
So many people think females can't ejaculate, that it is just pee, or that the porn you see of women cumming that way is faked.
The best experiment I read about was one woman who was able to ejaculate, took a medication that turned her urine blue. Then she masturbated to ejaculation and found that that fluid was not deep blue, it was still clear or maybe just tinged with blue (b/c since the ejaculate travels thru the urethra, a little pee might be washed down the pipe along with the ejaculate.)
I've got more to say but don't want the OP to be tl;dr, so I will open this up to others' experiences.
Ariakas
08-02-2010, 02:09 PM
C&p'ed from other thread
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Tts a fantastic experience. I introduced one of my ex'es to the possibility. I still remember the look on her face when got to that point. Very cool thing to be able to pull off. More for her than me, for the next few months of our "relationship" we played with anything and everything to make it bigger and bigger, trying to compete with ourselves for distance...
yep, good times
TL4everu2
08-02-2010, 04:22 PM
This is what was sent to me. Hope you learn something from it, or at least maybe pick up some new ideas or possibly even achieve the big wet ONE. ;)
The medical community was finally awakened in 1980 when Perry and Whipple showed a film of a female ejaculating to the SSSS (Society for the Scientific Study of Sex). Martin Weisberg, M.D., a gynecologist at Thomas Jefferson University Hospital in Philadelphia responded, "Bull ... I spend half my waking hours examining, cutting apart, putting together, removing, or rearranging female reproductive organs. There is no female prostrate, and women don't ejaculate." Yet after seeing the film and witnessing the event in person he changed his tune: "The vulva and vagina were normal with no abnormal masses or spots. The urethra was normal. Everything was normal. She then had her partner stimulate her by inserting two fingers into the vagina and stroking along the urethra lengthwise. To our amazement, the area began to swell. It eventually became a
firm one by two cm oval area distinctly different from the rest of the vagina. In a few moments the subject seemed to perform a Valsalva maneuver (bearing down as if starting to defecate) and seconds later several cc's of milky fluid shot
out the urethra. The material analysis described in the paper (Perry & Whipple's) is correct, its composition was closest to prostatic fluid".
Fluid Characteristics
The ejaculate is very much like prostrate fluid. It is usually clear, or milky and as thin as water. It does not have the look, smell or taste of urine. It is almost odorless. The taste varies, depending on the time of the month and diet, and possibly other factors, such as amount of stimulation received prior to ejaculating or time since the last ejaculation. It can vary from an almost honey sweet, sour, bitter, or a combination of these tastes.
Even though it is ejaculated from the urethra, it is most definitely not urine. It is absolutely impossible to pee during an orgasm unless there is a weak pubococcygeus muscle. This is very important, and it is important for the female and her partner to both understand this. The pubococcygeus muscle contracts when terminating a stream of urine, and is the muscle which contracts during orgasm. This contraction helps prevent retrograde ejaculation (ejaculation back into the bladder), and of course prevents the bladder from draining during orgasm.
Problems Women have Ejaculating
I think there are two major problems women face that prevents them from the immensely enjoyable experience of ejaculation. They are the female's mental attitude, and their partner's inability or unwillingness to spend the time and
effort during lovemaking and to learn the necessary techniques. We will address both of these problems and the solutions here.
The ejaculation is done through the urethra. This is the same tube that is used for urination. It is located outside the vagina, between it and the clitoris. The fluid is water like, and non- lubricating. In no way does ejaculation improve the chances of conceiving, it offers no lubrication, and is dumped
outside of the vagina. The only conceivable purpose of female ejaculation is for pleasure. And the pleasure is intense, in many cases far surpassing the best
orgasm's. Often ejaculation takes place during both a clitoral and a vaginal orgasm (yes there are two type of orgasms, clitoral and vaginal, but often orgasm is a combination of the two), giving the female extreme pleasure, sort of a triple whammy. Sometimes after ejaculation, the female will virtually pass out from the intense feelings.
It can be argued that since the only reason that females can and do ejaculate is for pleasure, then there should be no reason for them to not do so, and as often as they please. It is one of the safer sex acts, since in most cases it can be
triggered with fingers alone. Ejaculating from intercourse is more difficult, especially when performed from the missionary position, but still possible.
Preparation Recommendations for the Woman's Partner
Wash hands well. Trim fingernails. Make sure that the thumb, and first two finger nails do not extend past the fingertips. Trimming them as far back as possible would be best. Make sure that there is no dirt or crud under the fingernails.
Place a towel on the bed. A surprising amount of fluid can be released during female ejaculation. Compared to a male it can be like a water cannon instead of a water pistol.
Have some K&Y Jelly handy. At some point, additional lubrication may be necessary, even if she is having heavy orgasms and climaxes.
Set aside enough time. The first successful ejaculation may take from 10 minutes to over an hour.
It may be wise to exercise your hands, fingers, and arm for several days prior to this exercise. The motions necessary can become quite tiring after a while if you are not in good physical shape.
Before beginning the first time, discuss it. Let her know that you are striving to give her an ejaculation. That female ejaculation is perfectly normal, and a wonderful experience for both of you. Convince her that there is nothing to be
embarrassed about or ashamed of. Explain that just prior to ejaculation, she most likely will feel like she is about to pee. This is a difficult point for many women, as they will immediately draw back. Convince her that it is normally
impossible to pee during an orgasm, and that the feeling is simply the first sign she is about to ejaculate.
Since the movement of the fluid through the urethra will initially feel exactly like when she starts to pee, this is very important. The reflex to stop peeing will immediately abort the ejaculation, so she needs to be told to relax, and allow the fluid to pass. In other words when she feels like she is about to pee, she should go ahead and pee. Only it really won't be pee, it will be an ejaculation, and within a couple of seconds it will be very obvious to her that this is something quite different. Once she knows the feeling, she will be able
to push it out once it starts, with astounding results. It is best for the partner to be sitting between her legs at this time, else she may overshoot the towel or even wet the far wall.
Once she has ejaculated, rejoice with her. Don't make fun, or a joke. If you do it may be the last time she will be able to ejaculate, at least in your presence. Unlike a man, this is not the end. You can continue, and she may well have multiple orgasms and ejaculations with further stimulation.
Technique
Start slow. Use typical foreplay. You may want to start with her on her back.
Stimulate the clitoris. This can be done with a moist finger, or with your tongue. Performing cunnilingus while rubbing her breasts with your hands can be quite stimulating for her. At any rate, continue clitoral stimulation until she is lubricated. At this point slide two fingers into her vagina. Allow them to move along the front wall of the vagina. You should encounter an area about 2 inches in, which should be somewhat enlarged. This is the G spot. It lies directly along the urethra, and is located almost directly behind the clitoris.
Slowly stroke this area. It should start becoming more enlarged.
Ejaculation is almost always triggered by stimulating the G spot. Clitoral stimulation can often assist in helping her reach an ejaculation, and also can make it more intense. But stimulating the G spot is usually necessary at least initially. Once she starts ejaculating easily, she may find that clitoral
stimulation alone is sufficient.
Stroking can be done a number of ways. The two fingers can rub the area as a unit, or they can take opposite strides, similar to walking. A third method involved sliding the two finders out a fraction of an inch, and pushing them back in, similar to the in- out motion of intercourse, but with smaller strokes.
Initially pace the stimulation somewhat slow. Alternate with clitoral stimulation either with the thumb, other hand, or mouth/tongue. Also try simultaneous stimulation of the clitoris and G spot. Watch her reactions.
Simultaneous may be too intense for some but necessary for ejaculation for others. Take your cues from her. When she starts bearing down, and you feel the vagina contract, begin pumping rapidly. When she is in the middle of an orgasm,
stimulate the clitoris at the same time, and pump the G spot gently, but very rapidly. Talk to her. Say, "your getting it, go for it, don't worry, relax and let it come" or other similar words. She may need reassurance that if she drenches you, you will not be upset. Tell her how erotic you find it for her to ejaculate. Make her comfortable with both you, and the idea of ejaculation.
This actually is not the best position. If she does not succeed after a short time, have her roll over on her stomach, and get up on her knees. You will find stimulating the G spot much easier in this position, and she will most likely respond much better. With the two fingers turned down, slide your two fingers back into her vagina. Find the G spot and continue stimulating the G spot. You may use the other hand to stimulate the clitoris. If after a couple of orgasms, using rapid pumping on the G spot during orgasm, she still has not ejaculated, then turn the hand around, putting the thumb into the vagina.
TL4everu2
08-02-2010, 04:23 PM
And the rest of the article:
The thumb will likely not reach the G spot, but don't worry, it should come up to meet the thumb during orgasm. Take the two fingers and lay them down on the clit. Allow the entire curve between the thumb and forefinger to lie along her
from the vagina to her clitoris, and begin pumping with the thumb, and rubbing the clit at the same time. When she starts an orgasm, start pumping the entire hand rapidly. At this point she will most likely ejaculate. The trick is to
massage the area where the urethra comes out, while stimulating the clitoris and G spot. This will help to override the feeling she is about to pee, and allow her to let it pass.
Be aware that the female is not only capable of multiple orgasms, but also multiple ejaculations. It is not unusual for her to have from 3 to 5 ejaculations before depleting her supply of cum. Once she has ejaculated one or more times, you can continue with intercourse. Entering from behind will
stimulate the G-spot more easily than missionary style, and often additional ejaculations will occur during intercourse. Even if they don't, she will be highly excited, and very sensitive. The final result will most likely be the
most intense and pleasurable sex she has ever had.
Ariakas
08-02-2010, 04:33 PM
I actually found the most difficult task was me convincing the girls I have done this with, is to convince them I don't mind the peeing on me. Yes I use those words specifically because, apparently, this is what it feels like. It is NOT pee...but the embarrassment of the potential urination is a big deal to work past mentally. Once they have done it and realize it isn't urination, thats a big mental block to get past. (it looks tastes and feels very different than urine...little closer to semen but much much thinner in texture)
Most of the ejaculations I have experienced had different techniques speeds and toys. i tend to enoy a little sexual torture with massive build up. But that requires a woman who doesn't loose her orgasm when being teased with orgasm witdrawl. I find the accumulated affect can create the ejaculate quite powerfully...
Lastly, in my experience. The first time don't lay anything out to catch the ejaculate. It can make the girl uncomfortable...by the end of my time with my ex, we were laying out plastic sheets in a 3 to 4 ft range. She became some comfortable we ended up making it a game of distance.
oh...and don't put pressure on here. Not all girls can do it with all partners. My ex ended up with her gf who wanted to out perform me in every way. So she put a lot of pressure on my ex to ejaculate...that was unfair and, ended up counter productive in many ways in the end.
I gotta say, I miss it a bit haha...its been a decade since I have been with a female who could ejaculate. :)...
marksbabygirl
08-03-2010, 12:55 AM
I caught a bit of an informative workshop on female ejaculation.
I fully believe every woman can ejaculate - if given the right set of circumstances and she's able to overcome HER mental block with it.
I have had all of ONE g-spot orgasm - without ejaculation.
I want want want more.
I have seen others do it - and think its fascinating.
Just need to find the one who can help me get to that point. Apparently I get rather.. umm... tight when I get to that point - and with hubby's arthritis.... :eek:
Someday... I'll be in a situation where it happens ... and then it will happen again and again.... :p
Magdlyn
08-03-2010, 12:59 AM
Try a vibrator. Or your own hand . Be persistent. When i first started squirting i could only do it with my husband after several Os, but after a while could do it myself on the first O. It just took practice.
Sometimes now, I do it before actually cumming. The theory is this ejaculate's use is to wash sperm away, thereby making the next person you mate with have more chance for his sperm!
marksbabygirl
08-03-2010, 01:04 AM
Try a vibrator. Or your own hand . Be persistent. When i first started squirting i could only do it with my husband after several Os, but after a while could do it myself on the first O. It just took practice.
I have a toy specifically designed for it. It is something I enjoyed - but haven't made the time for it recently. Will have to revisit that with him tonight :)
Ariakas
08-03-2010, 01:08 AM
I have had all of ONE g-spot orgasm - without ejaculation.
As a...not an fyi...but a bout of realism, I have found g-spot on all of my partners, it does not signify a ejaculation in anyway. I will continue trying dagnabbit, but it doesn't mean it happens
Pengrah, for example, has a prominent g-spot and I can make her orgasm easily. 10 years of trying, various toys, tools, methods...not a squirt...does that mean it won't happen, hell no...it could very well happen under the right circumstances...but we are talking countless g-spot orgasms ;)...
marksbabygirl
08-03-2010, 01:11 AM
As a...not an fyi...but a bout of realism, I have found g-spot on all of my partners, it does not signify a ejaculation in anyway. I will continue trying dagnabbit, but it doesn't mean it happens
Part of that workshop was a note that women who are 'dewy' or 'moist' all the time have a tendency to 'leak' ejaculate continually - makes me wonder... because I am like that... still have to play with my g-spot - see if I can make that happen again :D
Ariakas
08-03-2010, 01:17 AM
Part of that workshop was a note that women who are 'dewy' or 'moist' all the time have a tendency to 'leak' ejaculate continually - makes me wonder... because I am like that... still have to play with my g-spot - see if I can make that happen again :D
ya thats a big part. The "permanently" wet feeling, or as my ex and pengrah said "sitting in a puddle" neither squirt but they both, when aroused at that level, leak haha...as dirty as that sounds. :)...
marksbabygirl
08-03-2010, 01:21 AM
ya thats a big part. The "permanently" wet feeling, or as my ex and pengrah said "sitting in a puddle" neither squirt but they both, when aroused at that level, leak haha...as dirty as that sounds. :)...
OH I get that.
At a play party - I'm totally aroused - and I TOTALLY soaked the bench I was sitting on. It frequently happens... :D
LovingRadiance
08-04-2010, 05:47 AM
Great thread-but damn frustrating too.
My G-spot is really fucking hard to reach.
I've bought toys that are SUPPOSEDLY designed to reach it.....
.......
.......
Nothing.
Get sick of spending $100+ at a time for
NOTHING.
I do ejaculate.
The first time was SO scary. I wasn't dating the guy-was in love with him, didn't know I could do that OR what it was for sure.
He didn't react-which didn't mean a whole lot as far as I was concerned, it flat freaked me out.
I figured out fairly quickly with him that this was JUST the way it was going to be and got used to it.
But it still makes me self-conscious at times. It's not that I am confused about what is happening. It's that I know other people are and most often I get self-conscious if Maca says something about it. He thinks it's awesome and exciting-but I never know how the other person is going to react.
I WISH it were easier to reach my G-spot. It feels SO good when it's rubbed, but it's so damn hard to reach that I've only actually gotten off via THAT spot less times than I have fingers to count. :(
I shouldn't complain though! Two men-both can get me off GREAT, soak one bed, get up and go soak the other! :eek:
marksbabygirl
08-04-2010, 06:37 PM
My toy is $15. Reaches it great. Vibrates even.
However i get SO freaking tight - it's almost painful :p
Played some the other night - got to the 'so tight its painful' point and gave it up - went for an amazing orgasm :p
Magdlyn
08-04-2010, 10:32 PM
Great thread-but damn frustrating too.
My G-spot is really fucking hard to reach.
But what do you mean? It should be just inside your vaginal opening. I can even stim my gspot from the outside when I am aroused, on my belly just above the pubic bone.
I do ejaculate.
The first time was SO scary. I wasn't dating the guy-was in love with him, didn't know I could do that OR what it was for sure.
He didn't react-which didn't mean a whole lot as far as I was concerned, it flat freaked me out.
I figured out fairly quickly with him that this was JUST the way it was going to be and got used to it.
But it still makes me self-conscious at times. It's not that I am confused about what is happening. It's that I know other people are and most often I get self-conscious if Maca says something about it. He thinks it's awesome and exciting-but I never know how the other person is going to react.
Heh, I always warn new lovers before we actually get busy. I rarely fuck on the first date, but if we are messing around, making out, and his hand gets in my pants and makes me cum, he gets an idea of the waterfall that results. :)
Magdlyn
08-04-2010, 10:34 PM
My toy is $15. Reaches it great. Vibrates even.
However i get SO freaking tight - it's almost painful :p
Played some the other night - got to the 'so tight its painful' point and gave it up - went for an amazing orgasm :p
That can happen. I have to be careful, I can tighten so hard it can pull a condom off.
Ariakas
08-04-2010, 10:36 PM
That can happen. I have to be careful, I can tighten so hard it can pull a condom off.
That kind of sounds like a party trick.
Pengrah tends to clamp. If you watch mma she almost tries to rip my arm off...Takes a lot of strength to not have my shoulder dislocated :)
TL4everu2
08-04-2010, 11:05 PM
LOL All this talk is making me hot! LOL
L has never "ejaculated" yet. We keep trying....but maybe there is too much pressure from me, on her, to try. I don't know. I DO know, that when she has an orgasm, she is one of those that tightens up so tight it's difficult for ME to have an orgasm....She tightens up so tight, it closes off my wanker, and I have all this built up....well....you know....and It's almost painful for me. When she is with another man, she can rip the condom off them also......unless they are extremely huge, and they are wearing a regular sized condom. Although, she has done it once before on our friend who was HUGE (6 1/2" around) and wearing a Magnum. But eh....That was her hardest orgasm ever. :) And she didn't ejaculate with that one either.....but at that time, I think she believed that female ejaculation was actually women peeing. But now, she believes differently. Anyway......We will keep trying.
Magdlyn
08-04-2010, 11:14 PM
And you love it.
LovingRadiance
08-05-2010, 01:57 AM
But what do you mean? It should be just inside your vaginal opening. I can even stim my gspot from the outside when I am aroused, on my belly just above the pubic bone.
But it's not. It's about 3-4 inches in AND you have to curve your fingers SHARP, almost all the way in a U shape. It's such a nightmare. :(
WHEN it gets touched-it's AMAZING. But it's NOT easy to reach at all. Hell-I'm sure Maca could elaborate quite well on it.
I can't reach it to save my life.
NOT ONE toy I've ever bought has ever been able to reach it. They don't even come CLOSE. Furthermore-the rest of the inside isn't particularly sensitive AT ALL. It feels good like someone running their fingers through my hair feels nice, but not in anyway stimulating for something to be inside of me, regardless of what it's doing.
TL4everu2
08-05-2010, 02:14 AM
But it's not. It's about 3-4 inches in AND you have to curve your fingers SHARP, almost all the way in a U shape. It's such a nightmare. :(
WHEN it gets touched-it's AMAZING. But it's NOT easy to reach at all. Hell-I'm sure Maca could elaborate quite well on it.
I can't reach it to save my life.
NOT ONE toy I've ever bought has ever been able to reach it. They don't even come CLOSE. Furthermore-the rest of the inside isn't particularly sensitive AT ALL. It feels good like someone running their fingers through my hair feels nice, but not in anyway stimulating for something to be inside of me, regardless of what it's doing.Just further proof that not all women are built the same. Everyone is different and wonderful. Just "like a box of chocolates". LMAO :p
LovingRadiance
08-05-2010, 02:28 AM
I LOVE that movie!
I do wish my chocolate box were a little less....... deep? Naw... a little more straight forward!
:eek:
Ariakas
08-05-2010, 02:59 AM
But what do you mean? It should be just inside your vaginal opening. I can even stim my gspot from the outside when I am aroused, on my belly just above the pubic bone.
Wow, thats impressive, I love learning new stuff :D... Everyone of mine had it 3 to 5 inches inside. (although I have recently been told it may be the "a-spot" I have been stimulating due to the length of my finger) I am more than willing to experiment on this new friend to try it out...
LovingRadiance
08-05-2010, 03:09 AM
Ok Ari-I haven't had any since June...
You gotta shut up!!!!!!
:o
:eek:
Ariakas
08-05-2010, 03:27 AM
Ok Ari-I haven't had any since June...
You gotta shut up!!!!!!
:o
:eek:
hmmmm...so how have those hikes been going for ya :p :eek:
LovingRadiance
08-05-2010, 05:39 AM
Haha, not as good as someone with long fingers could do!
:eek:
MonoVCPHG
08-05-2010, 06:39 AM
Ok Ari-I haven't had any since June...
You gotta shut up!!!!!!
:o
:eek:
Jeez..I haven't had any since....what time is it? Heehee!!
SourGirl
08-05-2010, 08:58 AM
On a personal level, I`ve not ever quite understood the fascination with it, from any aspect.
- You can squirt ejaculate without having a orgasm.
So those who like to have 'evidence' of a womans orgasm,..well poof, there goes that theory.
- The amount a woman squirts has no bearing on intensity of the orgasm. Lots of women ( as previously mentioned) tend to clamp with a really strong orgasm. This can cause a gushing or trickling effect, instead of the 'female water-gun' scenario.
My g-spot orgasms are a nice 'warm up'. They feel pleasant, but I dont ever forget to breathe, because of them. Whereas my a-spot orgasms are what I work for. :) That is a whole-body experience.
When I am bringing another woman to orgasm, I can`t say I really care either way. I want her to enjoy and orgasm, but wether that includes fluid or not, doesn`t really matter to me.
..and hell, I am a happy, pervy, voyeur on the best of days. Yet this isnt something that rings that particular bell.
So this is a honest question,..What IS the fascination ? The look ? The feel of it ? Why has it become part of the ' Fuck-It List' ?
...just curious,.....
Ariakas
08-05-2010, 01:45 PM
So this is a honest question,..What IS the fascination ? The look ? The feel of it ? Why has it become part of the ' Fuck-It List' ?
...just curious,.....
Honestly its the "knowledge" factor. There is no iffs or butts about it. Its an orgasm with visual and physical appeal :)...
Imagine having sex with a man who can orgasm but never outwardly cums :)
There is also the taboo factor :)...something I am always willing to explore :p
and as a ps, like I said, it is nothing I try at or work towards, if it happens, it happens. Just another thing in my sxual experience I have enjoyed. I could chalk this up to playing with vegetables in a pinch. I have done the food play and don't understand why people are fascinated by it too. It was ok, but toys are better and generally easier to control. I would sure try again if I found a partner with a fetish like that though :)
Magdlyn
08-05-2010, 03:35 PM
Well, its just a fact of life. Women can and do squirt when we cum. This has been repressed in Western culture. We've been made to feel ashamed about it, told it's pee, etc, for way too long. Conversely, in Asian cultures, women's flowing juices have been celebrated for millennia. I've seen old erotic woodcuts of men collecting the juices in cups. They even used to collect it in a leather horn shaped cup full of abosrbent material, and put that material in hot water to make tea of it for health.
It's just something I do, and it's an enjoyable, overwhelming sensation. I didnt always, I started in my early 40s. It came as a big surprise the first time, jetting out and down to my knees!
Sometimes I wish I didnt so much, b/c it is messy. But most of the time its just fun and feels great!
I like to raise awareness about it. Celebrate us women in all our wet warm glory!
SourGirl
08-05-2010, 04:37 PM
Ahh,..the Taboo of it all, if repressed. Now that makes sense.
No one ever told me not to, or that I shouldn`t. Hence no fascination for me.
Mystery solved, carry on ! :p
redpepper
08-09-2010, 07:33 AM
I get that it's taboo, something to celebrate, something we were kept in the dark about as women in the past.... but I don't get the fascination of late? It just seems like more pressure to preform. Like women are somehow not as sexually apt if they aren't sticking things in there cunts to get them to squirt the furthest or at all for that matter! More competition and achievements to live up to as women... greeeeat.... fucking great :confused:
TL4everu2
08-09-2010, 10:40 AM
Well, guys have a different mindset than women. It's because of how WE operate. Every time we cum, we ejaculate. Now that we are aware that WOMEN can ALSO ejaculate, some of us think (erroneously) that since they CAN, they SHOULD every time just like WE do, or they didn't really cum, like WE don't cum unless we ejaculate. I mean, if there's no ejaculate, then you didn't get off, so now, because we couldn't get you off, we're less of a man....right? :rolleyes:
Just theory. ;)
Ariakas
08-09-2010, 02:39 PM
I get that it's taboo, something to celebrate, something we were kept in the dark about as women in the past.... but I don't get the fascination of late? It just seems like more pressure to preform. Like women are somehow not as sexually apt if they aren't sticking things in there cunts to get them to squirt the furthest or at all for that matter! More competition and achievements to live up to as women... greeeeat.... fucking great :confused:
I think the irony is, the more pressure to perform the less likely it is to happen. And honestly, I don't believe men would ever think the woman is less sexually apt by the way. I would usually "blame" it on myself...just an fyi from the guy side :D
I do agree with tl4, in that it is a visual men have never had. Ironically it has been pointed out to me, and a point I forgot, ejaculation by women does not always include an orgasm.
LovingRadiance
08-09-2010, 05:05 PM
I don't think I've ever experienced an expectation regarding it. :rolleyes:
Nope-I'm certain I haven't.
BUT-I know for me, that there is a TOTALLY different sense of release from that, then I have with other orgasm that don't include ejaculation. :rolleyes:
I am unable to get MYSELF to the point of ejaculation. Frustrated enough at this point that I spent the last 4 hours SERIOUSLY trying to figure out when/if I could get enough privacy in a bed to put a serious effort into figuring out how. But-that's not realistic. I can't get 5 minutes-and I've tried many many times over the years when I had hours.
I most often find that release to be..... like when you have to go to the bathroom so bad it hurts, or that last bit when a baby's shoulders break through and they slide out during delivery?
It's a sudden sense of "NOW I can relax" "NOW I know where peace is" "NOW the world is right around me".
Moments like right now-when my world is careening insanely around me, is when I need that release most.
And yet-here I am 3000 miles away from being able to get that release.
Fucking sucks.
As for expectation-which is what I was supposed to be writing in the first place, I've never had a man put that expectation upon me. I've only ever had myself feeling the urgency of needing it.
AND
Today (as well as the last umpteen days)... is one of those days.
:(
MonoVCPHG
08-09-2010, 07:22 PM
I'm a guy who can't stand to waste a drop of excitement..hence why fluid bonding is so fulfilling to me; and by that I mean consuming juices. The idea of dental dams make me cringe with disappointment. I am more than satisfied with slow "milking" Redpepper although however she experiences release of fluids is perfectly fine for me...I'm not wasting any of it regardless...If she squirted she wouldn't see it happen anyways ;)
Magdlyn
08-10-2010, 04:00 AM
I don't think I've ever experienced an expectation regarding it. :rolleyes:
Nope-I'm certain I haven't.
Me neither. Back 12 yrs ago when I started cumming this way, I didnt know the possibility existed, really.
Even tho I'd read de Sade where he talks of women ejaculating lots of fluid. (Graphicly termed "spraying fuck" and other colorful phrases lol) And Id read other old porn where there was talk of women "spending," again a ref to women's copious jizz.
BUT-I know for me, that there is a TOTALLY different sense of release from that, then I have with other orgasm that don't include ejaculation. :rolleyes:
I am unable to get MYSELF to the point of ejaculation. Frustrated enough at this point that I spent the last 4 hours SERIOUSLY trying to figure out when/if I could get enough privacy in a bed to put a serious effort into figuring out how. But-that's not realistic. I can't get 5 minutes-and I've tried many many times over the years when I had hours.
:( Kids always around?
For me, it was a progression. First I exped jizzing when my ex would finger me for a very long time. I wouldnt start to jizz til after about the 7th to 9th orgasm. I'd need both clitoral and vaginal digital stimulation.
After a couple years, I'd be able to jizz after just 2 or 3 orgasms from fingering or oral sex.
Finally a few more yrs later, I'd be able to make myself cum this way, with clitoral stim alone, and on the first and subsequent orgasms.
I most often find that release to be..... like when you have to go to the bathroom so bad it hurts, or that last bit when a baby's shoulders break through and they slide out during delivery?
Yes, in fact we have to bear down to squirt, just like one does when pushing a baby out.
It's a sudden sense of "NOW I can relax" "NOW I know where peace is" "NOW the world is right around me".
:)
Moments like right now-when my world is careening insanely around me, is when I need that release most.
And yet-here I am 3000 miles away from being able to get that release.
Fucking sucks.
As for expectation-which is what I was supposed to be writing in the first place, I've never had a man put that expectation upon me. I've only ever had myself feeling the urgency of needing it.
AND
Today (as well as the last umpteen days)... is one of those days.
:(
I hate that pent up feeling!
TruckerPete
09-09-2010, 03:30 PM
My g-spot orgasms are a nice 'warm up'. They feel pleasant, but I dont ever forget to breathe, because of them.
Yeah, this is what I experience. They are a nice release before or between other Os, but not earth-shattering.
Someone else mentioned "constant leaking" during sex ... It's coming from my urethra, but I do get this. I have had partners have to wipe themselves off because I was so wet that neither of us could feel anything anymore!
GAH. I should not be reading about this at work. Wonderfully uncomfortable! :D
Ariakas
09-09-2010, 03:59 PM
GAH. I should not be reading about this at work. Wonderfully uncomfortable! :D
At least you don't have anything to show for your discomfort :p
TruckerPete
09-09-2010, 04:04 PM
At least you don't have anything to show for your discomfort :p
Other than squirming in my seat!!
Ariakas
09-09-2010, 04:10 PM
Other than squirming in my seat!!
Not quite as obvious as something protruding :p
I think there was a blowjob thread once on here that had a number of guys in trouble hahah
Magdlyn
09-09-2010, 04:25 PM
Not quite as obvious as something protruding :p
Poor guys, hard at work.
I think there was a blowjob thread once on here that had a number of guys in trouble hahah
Ooh! What was the title?
freeantigone
09-09-2010, 04:39 PM
I'm somewhat intrigued by female ejaculation. I've been masturbating & orgasming since I was 13; I come very easily and can come from PIV without simultaneous clitoral stimulation; I play with a g spot & clitoral vibe that always bring me to orgasm; I can find my g spot with my eyes closed (perhaps not the best analogy :D) and can come from rubbing my thighs together or dirty talk if I'm really horny. I can distinguish between direct clitoral, clitoral movement*, breast, g spot, cervical and vaginal orgasms...but I have never ejaculated.
Maybe I need to follow the step by step guide, but I'm somewhat sceptical. As an experienced navigator of my body I sort of think I've have discovered it by now. :confused:
*When I rub my hand over my clitoris to stimulate it inside me rather than rubbing the pokey-out bit :p
Magdlyn
09-09-2010, 04:43 PM
Wow, antigone, youre a good cummer, like me. As for ejaculating, I couldnt/didnt til I was 42. Sometimes I suspect a hormonal shift as I hit peri-menopause might've had something to do with it? As they say, life begins at 40!
Ariakas
09-09-2010, 04:49 PM
Actually it was the first four or five pages in the casual sex thread :)
NeonKaos
09-09-2010, 04:54 PM
I have all those orgasms too, but also have never ejaculated squirty-style. I don't feel as though I'm missing out on anything.
freeantigone
09-09-2010, 05:05 PM
Wow, antigone, youre a good cummer, like me. As for ejaculating, I couldnt/didnt til I was 42. Sometimes I suspect a hormonal shift as I hit peri-menopause might've had something to do with it? As they say, life begins at 40!
Well I'm 26, so some way to go :D
I'm not hugely bothered whether I do or not, I'm just intrigued. I'm going to try this over the next few weeks and see what I discover. Such tough research :D
Ariakas
09-09-2010, 05:13 PM
Well I'm 26, so some way to go :D
I'm not hugely bothered whether I do or not, I'm just intrigued. I'm going to try this over the next few weeks and see what I discover. Such tough research :D
In my experience the first one to get is the most...difficult...(hahaha...ya its sucks sooo bad to masturbate or be masturbated)...once you get it once, the second is easier and down the line...
Of course this is all second hand knowledge :p :D
Tonberry
09-09-2010, 05:54 PM
I'm 25, so, lots of time in front of me...
But I think I've only had clitoral orgasms so far. I've come during intercourse with only one man (Ragabash) and I would say it's in big part due to the fact that with our positions and angles, my clitoris rubs against him and I'm stimulated this way.
I'd love to explore the rest. I started masturbating when I was ten, so I started early, I guess, but I only ever did so externally. I tried buying toys and using them inside of me, but it didn't do much for me, it felt weird more than pleasant. On top of that I never liked oral sex much (receiving it I mean) or being manually stimulated by another person, but that's more of a personal trust thing that I've been working on.
My orgasms are very powerful. I say I could never fake one, because my whole body shakes, my muscles twitch, I'm out of breath, and I can take a while to recover. As in, I might just lay there, unable to walk, or sit up, or even reach out for the bottle of water (I always get super thirsty). They're picky so far though, need a very specific set of conditions. I need to be in a specific position, need to contract all of my muscles at once when I'm getting close, and stay that way until release...
I've been working on getting more variety. More angles, things like that. I'll work on it in the future but I want to go slowly, take my time, not pressure myself. I need to learn to give myself away to my partner, that's the trust issue I was talking about. Because my orgasms make me feel completely vulnerable, I've had a long history of shutting them off if I wasn't alone, or wanting to control how and where and when I had them, meaning I wasn't comfortable with being stimulated by someone else.
Ejaculation is one thing I'm curious about. I'd want to try and see if I can do it, while keeping in mind that maybe I won't, and that if I ever do it might be in 20 years or so. I'm getting much more comfortable with my body, what with being loved so much by two wonderful men.
Oh, also, about the wetness thing, I get very wet too. I actually need to stop every so often while masturbating and wipe myself off, because otherwise I'm too wet, it slips, and it either doesn't feel as intense or on the contrary, I end up touching my clitoris directly and it can hurt.
I can also get so wet that it's less sensitive during intercourse for both of us.
If it's true that wetter women don't ejaculate or ejaculate less, maybe I won't... But I'd still want to try a different kind of orgasm. I guess for me it's an exploration thing. I'm aware I might end up disliking some things or not wanting to do them as often, but I want to at least give them a fair chance.
ImaginaryIllusion
09-09-2010, 07:36 PM
Other than squirming in my seat!!
Just try not to slip off of it.
PollyPocket
09-09-2010, 07:41 PM
I have to chime on to this thread too....cuz yup, it is sort of a cool thing!
My experimentation with Orgasms didn't start till my mid thirties :( . Sadly. Very sadly. At this point, I was able to see why I had been holding back with many orgasms, and that was because of the ejaculation - I had NO Idea!
Since then, we keep lots of towels close by and when she blows she blows. :p I would describe my orgasms as being the best of my life now - so intense and mind blowing, however for the ejaculation to occur, I have to be totally 'comfortable' and let go....so that has not happened in a threesome ....yet.
The mind blowing orgasms have kept me going though!!! THE NRE coupled with the big O chemicals is what makes me want to make this whole thing work out. And what a work out it is!!
P2
redpepper
09-09-2010, 08:18 PM
Tonberry, I totally get what you're saying about orgasms, I experience the same, but over the years the wiped out feeling has changed. Or at least I fight it more. I like my love to just lay on top of me after and put their whole weight on me. It calms my body down. Also with the water! I'm soooo thirsty!
I have more shallow orgasms too that are more dry, yet wet enough. The whole excessive wetness is s prolonged ejaculation I am lead to believe. When its focussed that is when there is an ejaculation.
My issue, if you can call it one, is swelling. I get hard in the labis area. So much so sometimes its hard to get in. Fingers are fine but a cock sometimes not unless its really hard. Anyone else experience this?
MonoVCPHG
09-09-2010, 08:59 PM
Anyone else experience this?
I have never seen anything like it before but it is fantastic!
Tonberry
09-09-2010, 09:52 PM
I get swollen too in my clitoris and labia, but I would say not enough that it's hard to get in. And it really depends on the day... It's not 100% linked to how excited I am, that is, it only happens when I'm very excited, but doesn't happen every time I'm very excited.
Derbylicious
09-09-2010, 09:56 PM
GAH. I should not be reading about this at work. Wonderfully uncomfortable! :D
ditto