View Full Version : Team Edward or Team Jacob?
foxflame88
06-30-2010, 04:38 PM
For any other fans of the books/movies... doesn't Bella realize she could have them both if she were poly? :rolleyes:
Ariakas
06-30-2010, 05:03 PM
Wouldn't make a very good story if they had a love in. Romantic strife is part of the appeal for general public ;)...
Two men aren't likely to fight for you if they know they can share haha
PS...for my own sanity, I dislike the movies and books, but I have enough female friends who love them that I know a bit about the story. I mentioned them all being together...the shocked looks I got were borderline hillarious.
AutumnalTone
06-30-2010, 06:25 PM
I think the series is utter drek and I was ready to slit my wrists after sitting through the first movie with my daughter.
To speak to your question, though, sort of: I wonder why either one of them would want her? She's one of the most shallow characters ever created! Why would a 100+ year old man have any interest in such a horridly immature girl?
Of course, he's a right creepy old bastard, but I'm not going to pursue that here.
Edward
06-30-2010, 08:31 PM
Fortunately, MY daughter was raised on the classic horror novels and HATES Twilight and Bella (and the idea of 'sparkling vampires)... :)
solarwindsfly
07-01-2010, 05:26 AM
After reading I think she does need introduction to Poly and take them BOTH!! hehehehe I cant wait to see Eclipse this weekend:) So yes I'm a teenage vamp wannabe (as is wishing I was a teenager not a vamp! LOL)OH and yes i'm team Edward :)
Magdlyn
07-01-2010, 12:02 PM
So interesting this book series was written by a Mormon. Their church of course has a long and checkered history of polygyny. The strong sexual attraction between Bella, Edward and Jacob reeks of a suggestion of polyandry, even tho Bella "has" to choose with whom to consummate the relationship. I found it rather titillating, in the context of the story, to see her physically turned on by Jacob, and loving him as a friend, while having Edward as her primary love.
I'm sure there's lot of fanfic written where Bella has both men, and they all live happily ever after!
http://www.newmoonmovie.org/images/42198940-560x750.jpg
Looks like a "V" to me!
AutumnalTone
07-01-2010, 08:05 PM
Fortunately, MY daughter was raised on the classic horror novels and HATES Twilight and Bella (and the idea of 'sparkling vampires)... :)
My daughter lives with her mother, so I've not been a primary filter of her entertainment. I have to report that I actually infected their household with Twilight--I bought it as a gift for her twin older sisters. What's interesting is that the twin still living at home doesn't like Twilight these days, while my daughter and her mother are both hooked.
And my wife just got hooked via a friend of hers. Ugh.
I've never been enamored of vampires in any form. The vampire movie I like best is Nosferatu, which I think qualifies as old skool vampire.
solarwindsfly
07-01-2010, 10:10 PM
I hated the whole vampire thing until this but now I am reading another vampire series called the "House of Night" novels. I also am looking at a few others. I am a Harry Potter fan too but Vamps is new for me :)
Magdlyn
07-02-2010, 02:09 PM
The vampire movie I like best is Nosferatu, which I think qualifies as old skool vampire.
There's a really cool movie, a fictionalized account of the making of Nosferatu, called Shadow of the Vampire.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0189998/
My celeb crush Eddie Izzard has a small role, but John Malkovich as the director and William DaFoe as Max Shrek (Nosferatu himself) are wicked cool in it!
My other favorite vampire is Dracula from 1979, with Frank Langella! mmmm, he's so deliciously evil in it.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HtPgt0qMcWg/Su3x1Vw0W0I/AAAAAAAABBU/Z4B2X_7htu8/s400/frank+langella+dracula.jpg
I recently saw From Dusk to Dawn, a Quentin Tarantino vamp flick that starred George Clooney and Juliette Lewis. Very funny, sexy, bloody. Watch it for Salma Hayek's hip dance alone.
http://cinefantastiqueonline.com/wp-content/hayek.jpg
Edward
07-02-2010, 04:31 PM
The Langella Dracula was a reasonable re-telling of the modern mythology (which all started with Bram Stoker).
Stoker really wasn't that good a writer; look for Saberhagen's The Dracula Tapes for a hilarious version told from The Count's point of view. Other modern takes on vampires (written) are the early Anita Blake series, (Laurell Hamilton before she goes strange) , Butcher's Harry Dresden series, and Saberhagen's Dracula series. Also the True Blood TV series and its inspiration, the books (forget the writer at this time).
I mostly fault Meyer's stories because she admits she did no research before writing them. If you're going to invoke supernatural creatures, you at least need to know their literary and mythic origins before doing your own version...
Karma
07-03-2010, 11:18 PM
First off, those are NOT vampires. Those are carnivorous sparkle-fairies, or - as my gf has termed them- Myerpires.
MYERPIRE: n- a fictional creature that lurks in highschools to fall helplessly in love with twitty little girls, in spite of their supposed centuries worth of worldly experience and maturity. Known to sparkle like a gay pride float when exposed to sunlight.
ex: If I had to choose between meeting a pissed off fae or a myerpire in a dark alley at night, I'd sure as hell choose the myerpire. I know I can take one of them. (quoted from my gf.):D
Secondy, Team Edward or Team Jacob? Get real.....
I'm on Team Spike.;)
solarwindsfly
07-03-2010, 11:38 PM
So I just saw Eclipse! It was wonderful! I hope you all see it soon :) It was awsome... and btw Team Edward and Jacob need to hook up LOL
solarwindsfly
07-03-2010, 11:42 PM
@Karma I love your picture!
Karma
07-04-2010, 12:03 AM
Thank you :) Mohegan got all computer-savvy and made it for me, but it may change soon. I have something else in mind.
We'll see.
solarwindsfly
07-04-2010, 07:13 AM
@Edward I think her view is interesting because it is based purely on her imagination and the word of mouth Lore that exists today. I think its also humanities way of making good out of crap :)
Mendalla
07-08-2010, 07:42 PM
I prefer David Wellington's Laura Caxton series to any of the vampire romances. Tough female cop kicks vampire arse (and gets her physical and emotional butt kicked quite a bit, too). The vampires are some of the nastiest I've ever seen in vampire literature (for instance, they change you by driving you to commit suicide). For the most part, I like my vampires as antagonists or maybe anti-heroes (a la Lestat in the first couple Anne Rice Vampire Chronicles), not sparkly lover boys.
Mendalla
Magdlyn
07-08-2010, 08:48 PM
New spoof of Twilight coming out!
http://www.break.com/index/vampires-suck-1879620
Karma
07-08-2010, 10:32 PM
I'm all about the Harry Dresden series. THOSE are real vampires, in all their nastiness... and the hero almost always gets the crap kicked out of him, too. Having a near-invulnerable hero just gets old to me.
vandalin
07-08-2010, 10:35 PM
Almost always? Dresden can't even avoid getting his ass whooped in Butler's short stories! But I agree, well done Vamps there.
I also enjoy Kim Harrison's Hallows series and Kelley Armstrong's Otherworld series (although vamps don't show up till book 3)
RGee91
07-08-2010, 10:53 PM
First of all I have to say TEAM JACOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
*woosahh*
:D
Now, on to the discussion, it's funny that I just mentionned this in another thread, and I see it's already been noticed by someone else too (meaning the whole jacob and edward should just get in a triad with bella)... I say triad because that'd be no Vee... seriously.... bella would probably be kicked outta bed half the time lol ;)
pancake
10-23-2010, 04:17 AM
The Langella Dracula was a reasonable re-telling of the modern mythology (which all started with Bram Stoker).
Stoker really wasn't that good a writer; look for Saberhagen's The Dracula Tapes for a hilarious version told from The Count's point of view. Other modern takes on vampires (written) are the early Anita Blake series, (Laurell Hamilton before she goes strange) , Butcher's Harry Dresden series, and Saberhagen's Dracula series. Also the True Blood TV series and its inspiration, the books (forget the writer at this time).
I mostly fault Meyer's stories because she admits she did no research before writing them. If you're going to invoke supernatural creatures, you at least need to know their literary and mythic origins before doing your own version...
Well she also kinda decided to throw all that to the wind and make her own version based on the dream she had...more power to her, I think...yes I'm a Twilight nerd!
Karma
10-23-2010, 06:24 AM
yes I'm a Twilight nerd!
BAH!!!! VAMPIRES DO NOT SPARKLE!!!! WE ARE NOT SPARKLY!!!!!
um..... I mean.... they are not sparkly. Them. The vampires, which I certainly am not. In any way. Stop looking at me like that....
...dammit, now I'm hungry :)
pancake
10-23-2010, 06:26 AM
BAH!!!! VAMPIRES DO NOT SPARKLE!!!! WE ARE NOT SPARKLY!!!!!
um..... I mean.... they are not sparkly. Them. The vampires, which I certainly am not. In any way. Stop looking at me like that....
...dammit, now I'm hungry :)
LMAO!!!!
I agree you...um, they...shouldn't be sparkly...but I do love sparkly things!!!
Karma
10-23-2010, 06:41 AM
LMAO!!!!
I agree you...um, they...shouldn't be sparkly...but I do love sparkly things!!!
So, a little back story here: I've spent the last three years dealing with J and our mutual friends, and their mutual joke/argument that I am a vampire. They are convinced of this, no matter how much I protest, or how often I point out that I LOVE garlic and silver jewelry, or that I am way too claustrphobic to ever sleep in a coffin....
but they never believe me. And now Cricket has been on the same bandwagon for the last year or so :)
My daytime sleep schedule, gothic wardrobe, and irish complexion do not mean that I'm undead!!
pancake
10-23-2010, 06:47 AM
So, a little back story here: I've spent the last three years dealing with J and our mutual friends, and their mutual joke/argument that I am a vampire. They are convinced of this, no matter how much I protest, or how often I point out that I LOVE garlic and silver jewelry, or that I am way too claustrphobic to ever sleep in a coffin....
but they never believe me. And now Cricket has been on the same bandwagon for the last year or so :)
My daytime sleep schedule, gothic wardrobe, and irish complexion do not mean that I'm undead!!
OMG...too freakin funny...I think I would have to join in if I knew ya!!!
And that's just because I'm not irish pale, but dang near it. White girl with almost black hair...yeah...the sun hates me.
marksbabygirl
10-26-2010, 07:19 PM
On the topic of "other" vampire movies - has anyone seen "Let the Right One In?"
Having read the books and knowing how the story ends - I'm not on either side ;-)
Thomas
10-28-2010, 01:52 PM
I don't think a poly situation would work in the Twilight-verse. Huge thing there about the Vamps and Weres hating each other. Sorry to kill any fun. Popular vote amongst the gay men I know puts Team Jacob in the lead post- New Moon
pancake
11-03-2010, 06:54 AM
I don't think a poly situation would work in the Twilight-verse. Huge thing there about the Vamps and Weres hating each other. Sorry to kill any fun. Popular vote amongst the gay men I know puts Team Jacob in the lead post- New Moon
Well if it has anything to do with the movies, then yeah! I think everyone's on Team Jacob after seein that kid with his shirt off!!!
Karma
11-03-2010, 10:29 AM
"Hi, I'm Jacob. I can't act at all, but I'm gay bait, and it's written into my contract that I have to take my shirt off every two minutes so that the producers of this drivel can snag another target audience, so you should pay money to come see me fail at acting and give you half a strip-tease every other scene or so."
Yeah, that guy sucks. But he does succeed at what the producers hired him for.
Derbylicious
11-03-2010, 01:42 PM
I saw a t-shirt once that said "and then Buffy staked Edward, the end".
DaylightStirring
11-04-2010, 12:38 AM
gawd...you guys are so destructive! I read the books years ago and thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing.
I just wanted to mention the part where Edward, not wanting to hurt Bella, agrees to have Jacob date nights. He drives her to the half way point and she gets out of his car and into Jacob's. I don't remember it that well in the movie, but in the book. Its because Edward knows that she loves Jacob, and in his heart he wants her to have the opportunity to decide to be with Jacob, because he wants her to be happy. And then in another scene she is freezing cold in a tent, so Edward gets up and asks Jacob if he can slide in the sleeping bag with Bella. And he sits there awake all night watching the two sleep peacefully together. Jacob makes a joke at one point that he could make Bella warmer if they had their clothes off. Sounds pretty close to poly to me.
Btw, I'm team Bella, bad acting or not, I'd still like to do her.
Karma
11-04-2010, 02:09 AM
I saw a t-shirt once that said "and then Buffy staked Edward, the end".
Like I said in the beginning dear, I'm on Team Spike ;)
Derbylicious
11-04-2010, 02:35 AM
Like I said in the beginning dear, I'm on Team Spike ;)
like button :D
sunflowershower
12-15-2010, 06:28 AM
Ughhh.....I wish she would have jumped them both. You know they would have let her....
sunflowershower
12-15-2010, 06:41 AM
"Btw, I'm team Bella, bad acting or not, I'd still like to do her."
lmao! I feel you on that one too!
Sapphire
12-28-2010, 11:15 AM
Hmmm well I have to admit, I have ALWAYS been a vampire fan....
I fell in love with Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles ..... I have read them over and over again..... (and the rest of her books).... I do have to say that I didnt like 'Memnoch the Devil' much at all...
I didnt think I would like the Twilight Series, but I did....
I cant say whether I am team Jacob or team Edward - Id do both :):)
Theres a book named "Dracula Unbound" by Brian Aldiss that has been a favourite of mine too :)
Vinccenzo
12-28-2010, 02:47 PM
We are big horror movie fans in my home so when my son came home from school saying many of the other kids at school were going on about a vampire movie called Twilight, I agreed to watch it with him in case it was too much for his age.
What a butt load of crap! This was not a horror movie. And it was some of the most stilted drivel ever with awful acting; worse than a Hughes film with an abusive relationship thrown in the mix. Even my kid was glad it was over when the movie finished. I'm stunned adults like it!
Ariakas
12-28-2010, 05:59 PM
We are big horror movie fans in my home so when my son came home from school saying many of the other kids at school were going on about a vampire movie called Twilight, I agreed to watch it with him in case it was too much for his age.
What a butt load of crap! This was not a horror movie. And it was some of the most stilted drivel ever with awful acting; worse than a Hughes film with an abusive relationship thrown in the mix. Even my kid was glad it was over when the movie finished. I'm stunned adults like it!
The cover didn't give it away? Its a romance series with people who bite other people. hahaha
Vinccenzo
12-28-2010, 06:25 PM
The cover didn't give it away? Its a romance series with people who bite other people. hahaha
What cover? Something tells me we get our movies in a different way than you ;)
Ariakas
12-28-2010, 06:29 PM
What cover? Something tells me we get our movies in a different way than you ;)
Walk up the street and look up. Twightlight crap has infested our world. Its hard to miss the ads and covers, they are everywhere.
Vinccenzo
12-28-2010, 07:07 PM
Walk up the street and look up. Twightlight crap has infested our world. Its hard to miss the ads and covers, they are everywhere.
Yeah NOW. But this was back when the first movie came out. I only knew of it because my son (10 yrs at the time) told me his friends were talking about it. I asked someone who had seen it if there was rape themes or gratuitous sex scenes and was told it was mild. I didn't even know there were books!
Ugh, I can't stand self insertion books. You can tell the author is writing themselves into the story and all the other characters respond to them how they wish people would in everyday life with no rhyme or reason for it. The other instance we joke about is the "bestest male journalist ever" books like "The Girl Who Played with Fire" and "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo". Shallow stories where some rather normal fella travels all over and women from all walks of life MUST sleep with him because he, by way of his very average nature, is irresistible to all women. :rolleyes:
nycindie
01-02-2011, 03:28 AM
I once rode in an elevator with Frank Langella. Gorgeous man. But I digress.
One of my favorite vampires was Nick on "Forever Knight." First episode:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/60333/forever-knight-dark-knight-part-1
polychronopolous
01-07-2011, 11:34 PM
Team zombie. FTW!
Or whatever team Milla Jovovich. (Yummy!) ..diseased undead killing.. Post-apocalyptic umbrella corp.. Whatev.
Phoenix.
eklctc
01-09-2011, 01:42 AM
Yea...it's funny because Eclipse really could go poly if it wasn't a tween series. I mean, Bella realized she loved them both but decided that she could only be deeply centered with one but, in all actuality, she already has a poly relationship going on.
I really wish they would come out with an adult rendition of the series because the current movies are so dumbed down due to the PG-13 rating. I could see the movies being much more intense in sexuality and gore.
eklctc
01-09-2011, 01:45 AM
Oh yea...I'm team Both. They would be of the same level simply because you cannot rank people who serve different purposes and fulfill different aspects of you, in my opinon. Plus, I think it's unfair to place a value on individuals so I would love them both fairly, balance out my relationships, have heated, rough moon sex with Jacob and have gentle yet electrifying blood sex with Edward. Okay, maybe the blood would make it a bit dangerous but you know what I mean. ;)